Gonzales: I’m Staying For The Kids
Gonzales: I’m Staying For The Kids
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales announced this morning: “I’m not going to resign. I’m going to stay focused on protecting our kids.” Speaking before a Project Safe Childhood event, Gonzales told reporters he plans “to go up to the Congress and provide further clarification” about the U.S. Attorney purge, and claimed that his department has been “tremendous in the area of public corruption.” Watch it:
Gonzales’ declaration that he intends to stay “focused on protecting our kids” comes as he launches a cross-country PR tour to save his job:
“CBS News has learned Attorney General Alberto Gonzales will take to the road to fight for his job, spending the next week traveling the country to see as many US Attorneys as he can. One source says he’ll apologize not for firing eight of their colleagues but for the way he handled it. [Gonzales] will start his mea culpa tour tomorrow in St. Louis.” [CBS Evening News, 3/21/07]
“A day after Bush gave his attorney general a vote of confidence, Gonzales appeared to be launching a campaign to save his job by repairing relations with prosecutors in the field and reaching out to political supporters. His office released a dozen testimonials from Latinos and law enforcement groups, with many saying that Gonzales, the first Latino attorney general, was being unfairly held accountable for the fiasco.” [LA Times, 3/22/07]
“Embattled Attorney General met this afternoon with several Republican Senators, including Orrin Hatch, Jon Kyl, John Cornyn and Jeff Sessions, GOP sources said. The lunch meeting held at the Department of Justice, sources said, was initiated by Gonzales. A source familiar with the meeting says it was an attempt by Gonzales to reach out to Republicans who have been decidedly unhappy with how he has handled the US Attorney mess.” [ABC, 3/21/07]
Transcript:
GONZALES: I’m not going to resign. I’m going to stay focused on protecting our kids. There’s a lot of work that needs to be done around the country. The department is responsible for protecting our kids, for making our neighborhoods safe, for protecting our country against attacks of terrorism, to going after gangs, going after drug dealers. I’m staying focussed on that.
Q: General, you were kept out of the loop on the U.S. Attorney firings. Can you still be an effective attorney general?
GONZALES: I think if you look at the record of the department over the past two years it has been tremendous in the area of public corruption, in the area of civil rights enforcement, in the area of going after child pornographers. And so the record of the department has been extremely strong. I am committed to work with Congress to make sure that they have the information that they need to determine what happened here. At the end of the day, we have a situation that the President of the United States has the authority to hire and to fire United States Attorneys. I’m going to go up to the Congress and provide further clarification about what happened here. We are working with Congress voluntarily. No United States Attorney was fired for improper reasons. That’s the message that I’m going to deliver to the United States Congress. Thank you.
So rather than 3/23 we can expect 3/30 to be his resignation day? I hope he gets his travel voucher submitted before he leaves.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:06 pmHe and Foley are starting a special “task force”. I wouldn’t trust any of these idiots around ANY kids. they’ll grow up like Hitler, Bush, McVeigh, Jake, Roger, Patrick, Firepants… and so on, and so on…
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:06 pmWOO HOO!!!
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:07 pmhahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
…what is HE gonna molest ‘em now?
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:07 pmSo… is this initiative of Gitmo Abu Gonzo in full ReichWing alignment with the Mark Foley Children Plan?
These people have no integrity and no honor. They willfully place the Constitution in danger for their own “glory” and greed.
ITMFA now!!!
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:08 pmMost despicable is Gonzales implying that he is a target because he is Hispanic. Ruben Navarrette has a disgusting column accusing the Democrats of pursuing this because of racial bias. This is now the penultimate refuge of a scounrel.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:08 pmclaimed that his department has been “tremendous in the area of public corruption.â€
He left out a qualifier there. Let me fill it in…..”tremendously bad”
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:08 pmWhat a Jake.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:08 pmdid he cry? was he holding a puppy as a “canine shield”?
Hey Gonzo - you mean the Iraqi kids that have been tortured into insanity thanks to your “good work” for your Master??????
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:08 pm“Tremendous in the area of public corruption”? Sure has, you putz.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:09 pmLiberals DESTROYED again. He won’t resign. But you punks keep getting back up.
This is like Rocky 1, “stay down libs. Don’t make me pound you again.”
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:09 pmGonzales will stay for the “kids” but not the rule of law, honesty, or integrity. Please do take note trolls–Gonzales and Rove are trashing the Republican Party and all you do is cheer them on. Just remember Gonzales and Rove as the GOP is swept out of office in 2008.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:11 pmNo. I think Gitmo Abu Gonzo is staying for the martial law!
[from: http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=117&a=1431 ]
…In October 2006, Bush signed into law the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007. Quietly slipped into the law at the last minute, at the request of the Bush administration, were sections changing important legal principles, dating back 200 years, which limit the U.S. government’s ability to use the military to intervene in domestic affairs. These changes would allow Bush, whenever he thinks it necessary, to institute martial law–under which the military takes direct control over civilian administration…
Nothing to see here. Move along. Emperor Bush is the Decider for all of us.
ITMFA now!!!
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:11 pmGet his itinerary, put it on the net, and let’s make sure he gets a nice “F-you” reception everywhere he goes.
This can really be spun around quite easily so that Gonzo’s tour resembles Bush’s recent embarassment in South America.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:11 pmpure slimeball…
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:11 pmBush can’t afford to let him go. The wagons are encircled and the indians are clsing in.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:11 pmAbovetheClouds:
If you are referring to me as “troll” I am registered Independent.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:13 pmLike those kidnapped children of some terrorist suspect?
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:13 pm“The children, what will we tell the children?”. Am staying for the children my ass!!! Get to stepp’n Gonzo.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:13 pmSAY, WHAT? Have you no f*ing shame, you asswipe? What a ridiculous statement to throw out there to waste out Goddamned time and energy. F* you, you limp-dicked wank! STEP DOWN, NOW!
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:13 pmHAHAHAHA!!!
According to Gonzo, “the kids” don’t even have habeus rights or the protection of those “quaint” Geneva Conventions against torture.
That line is so feeble, I don’t even think Patrick will buy it!
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:13 pmHmmm… KIDS
Kleptocrats
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:14 pmIncompetents
Deceivers
Sycophants
JesusChrist_GodofWAR:
You think Bush, or any President for that matter, is going to invoke martial law short of some serious, national state of emergency?
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:15 pmThis is like Rocky 1
Comment by firehead
Um…Rocky lost that fight.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:15 pm“AbovetheClouds:
If you are referring to me as “troll†I am registered Independent.
Comment by Jake — March 22, 2007 @ 12:13 pm”
Sure you are……
That’s why in another thread, when refering to the Republican party, you said “we“.
Not the Republicans, but “we“.
Now go and take your lies somewhere else….
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:16 pmhmmm. since everything this guys says has been a lie, it would seem logical now to investigate him and issues involving children. Perhaps he is a pedophile? when you hear this kind of talk from a bushwa, it is the sign of something else entirely. expecting human emotions from these beings is so remote and unlikely, that I have grown skeptical.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:16 pm“I’m not going to resign. I’m going to stay focused on protecting our kids.â€
and by kids, he means ‘loyal Bushies’
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:16 pmHey (mis)firehead(upyourass) - Congratulations! Your posts are 100% buzzword-compliant and your signal-to-noise ratio totally sucks. According to the Rovian handbook of debate - that is the way it should always be. I’m sure your handler will be very pleased and you will be richly rewarded. Heckuva job!
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:17 pmJake,
Even if you were a registered Democrat, you are still a troll.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:17 pmThe American people want this Idoit out. We will get what we want.
YOu Repub do not control everything. Old Bushies and Cheney will be IMPEACH BEFORE 2008. Gonz had no right firing these USA Attorney because they were investigating the corrupt Repubs.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:18 pmChildren are the bright future of any country, let us vow to leave a better planet for them and be a good lineage to our progeny.
http://www.tekno-world.blogspot.com
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:19 pmSince you are an “Independent” you must be upset with the outome for your candidate Ralph Nader in the 2004 Presidential election. “Independent” is a chickenshit dodge for hacks who also can themselves “libertarians” who spout the neocon talking points at the same time keeping their distance–hiding behind their “independence”–from the unprincipled and immoral Bush Administration.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:19 pmOh yeah! Like this Canadian 9 year old.
http://www.canada.com/ montrealgazette/ news/ story.html?id=c9964beb-e10f-4116-b473-b750dea3af5d&k=46255
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:19 pmVideo no worky thinkprogress. Second video in two days that won’t work. What’s going on?
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:20 pmLiberals DESTROYED again. He won’t resign. But you punks keep getting back up.
This is like Rocky 1, “stay down libs. Don’t make me pound you again.â€
Comment by firehead — March 22, 2007 @ 12:09 pm
The only destroyed over this is Bush’s humiliating approval rating, have you seen it lately? I’m actually happy Gonzo hasn’t resigned yet. Every day he stays, Bush loses more of the little credibility he has left. How many Republicans do you think will call on Gonzo to resign this week?
p.s. My God you are an ignoramus, Cleetus.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:20 pm“Even if you were a registered Democrat, you are still a troll.”
true. and doesn’t “registering” as an independent defeat the purpose of being, ya know, independent.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:21 pmGood for him..”for the children”…LOL..the old Clinton line, I love it!
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:22 pmUsing children as a humn shield… now that is integrity… and a common transparent political ploy.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:22 pmThanks for the info, Robert. I will try not to post “WOO HOO!!” anymore.
RemoveBush:
In no thread have I referred to the Republican party as “we“ — you may be referring to a post where I was very specific that “we” included Democracts, Republicans, Independents, and all good Americans who thought Bill Clinton should have been removed from office — you guys have yet to prove that Bush lied under oath or obstructed justice, for instance.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:22 pmFireant is giving us a glimpse of the violent internal world of his personality. He’s one I’d totally bet on to show up in the news for killing his wife or in-laws or co-workers.
Deranged male revenge fantasies, fueled by chuck norris movies and gun shows and rush limbaugh, until one day it all just gets to be too much, and someone’s gotta pay, right fireant????
Some of these trolls are just a few steps away from that kind of fame - like the Coulter fan who mailed the fake anthrax - if he’d gotten away with that, he’d have been one step closer to going out “hunting” to “save America” from the “fags” or some such…
flippin sickies
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:23 pmWe are working with Congress voluntarily.
Yeah, AFTER you were busted planning to bypass Congress by abusing the Patriot Act.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:24 pmAboveTheClouds:
I didn’t vote for that wacko Ralph Nader. I am also a conservative. The last true “Independent” who was also conservative running for President was John Anderson.
pgw:
No.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:25 pmHellova guy that albert . . . . manning up ‘for the children’.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:25 pmHe . . is . . toast.
He is out traveling LOOKING FOR A JOB! HA!
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:25 pmHow ironic. His office was so successful at prosecuting public corruption he was forced to fire the US Attorneys who prosecuted the cases.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:26 pmGerald Gibson Jr.
How did Saddam use his “human shields”?
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:26 pmJuan C
tom baker
Eat any fetuses lately?
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:26 pm*his department has been “tremendous in the area of public corruption.*
For once I agree with Gonzo!
No department has ever displayed more public corruption than his!
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:27 pmDumb Fox:
How exactly is it an “abuse” of the Patriot Act to do something specifically allowed by the Patriot Act?
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:27 pmCAMPAIGN GOES ON
thats all I needed to hear. You and your family are in my prayers.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:29 pmreal independent men don’t register.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:30 pmare you equating Gonzo’s actions w/ those of Saddam, Jake?
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:31 pmHEYYY! Why wasn’t I allowed to stay for the kids?
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:32 pmHow was that provision snuck into the Patriot act, Jake?
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:32 pmOff topic///Please send Blessings and good thought’s to John and Elizabeth Edward’s.Her cancer has returned and all good thought’s need to be sent their way….Blessings all
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:32 pmJake sez:
What do you think the purpose of the PATRIOT Act was, Jake?
Once you answer that, please tell us how the firings of these attorneys dovetails with that purpose.
Once you realize that can’t be done, you’ll have answered your own question.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:32 pmIn the screen capture above, Gonzales has the same head-half-cocked smirk that Bush gets when he is lying in a particularly mendacious way. It is the look of a 16 year old repeat f*ck up after just having told a pro forma lie to an adult that he knows won’t be believed.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:32 pmAG: Protecting our kids from that awful pornographic document known as the “Constitution.”
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:33 pm“RemoveBush:
In no thread have I referred to the Republican party as “we“ — you may be referring to a post where I was very specific that “we†included Democracts, Republicans, Independents, and all good Americans who thought Bill Clinton should have been removed from office — you guys have yet to prove that Bush lied under oath or obstructed justice, for instance.
Comment by Jake — March 22, 2007 @ 12:22 pm”
Jake…. You really should be careful about what you deny!!!! And now the PROOF!!!!
“Jackie Rawlings:
All those who voted for him to stay are really saying all the criminals that lied under oath should be released because lying under oath isn’t a crime.
Now you know how we felt after Clinton’s Senate acquittal. Once you get Bush lying under oath, let me know.
Comment by Jake — March 21, 2007 @ 5:26 pm“
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:33 pmpgw:
How is an Independent supposed to vote then?
alp3:
Not at all. Someone else brought up “human shields” and I was trying to make the point for lurkers out there that REAL murder, rape, etc. is worse than anything Gonzales has done.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:35 pmRemoveBush:
Perhaps you didn’t see the post where I said “we†included Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and ALL Americans who thought Bill Clinton should have been removed from office?
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:36 pmJake, noboby’s buying because everybody remembers that across the entire nation there were about 3 non-Republicans backing Clinton’s impeachment.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:37 pmYou know what? I’m pretty sure the Justice Department will do as fine of a job, if not better, “Protecting the kids” without Gonzo around.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:38 pm“How exactly is it an “abuse†of the Patriot Act to do something specifically allowed by the Patriot Act?”
your dependence is showing. so repub staff exploiting a provision that they slipped in at the last minute to cut the senate out of the approval process is ok with you? that’s disingenuous and/or willfully ignorant. but don’t worry, a whopping 1/3rd of the nation agrees with you.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:39 pmGonzales is clearly out of his league–his Justice Department has had two months to get this right and it has devolved into an even a bigger mess than people have become accustomed to with the Bush Administration. What an odd line of command–the Attorney General reports to Karl Rove? I’m sure Karl will clear all this up at his first of several appearances and trials. Maybe not–it did take Karl 5 times before the Plame Grand Jury to get his story straight. Just remember Rove–when you tell the truth you don’t have “hazy memories” of what really happened.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:39 pmJake,
Gonzo needs a driver for his tour.
Do you still have your license?
If he gives you the job, please drop him off in Mexico.
Mexico will then have it’s first illegal immigrant.
Wouldn’t that be quaint!
PS: You must support torture to get the job.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:39 pmWorst. AG. Ever.
Can I have government money to campaign for keeping my job if it ever gets on the chopping block?
Just wonderin…
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:39 pmI liked ‘the checkers speech’ better when it had a dog in it.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:39 pmGonzo: “I will leave no child behind…
…(in my quest to strip all Americans of their civil rights.)”
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:40 pmHahahahaha! Gonazales wants to show our children that it’s OK to LIE to the American people.
See kids, if you’re a Republican, morals and integrity mean nothing.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:41 pmHow did Saddam use his “human shields�
Comment by Jake
Dont care. We are not talking about Saddam… someday when we are ask me then.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:42 pmso you were comparing the crimes of the criminals, jake?
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:42 pmto make a point… about?
Sen. Leahy wants Karl Rove under oath so he can set him up in a perjury trap. [/Limbaugh]
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:43 pm“RemoveBush:
Perhaps you didn’t see the post where I said “we†included Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and ALL Americans who thought Bill Clinton should have been removed from office?
Comment by Jake — March 22, 2007 @ 12:36 pm”
Nice try……
You meant what was said….. “we” did not mean anyone OTHER than the Republican party!!! That was the only people who were dissapointed!
As a TRUE independant, I was all for them Impeaching Clinton after it was discovered that he lied under oath. But I did not care either way if he was found guilty or not. Just the fact that the court went through the motions was great. After all…… This was not like Outing a CIA NOC, or starting a ILLEGAL WAR, or Presenting false evidence to the Congress, or TREASON, or the MANY other crimes this president has commited.
You can’t compare Clintons “lie” to ANYTHING this administration has done as Bush puts Satin to shame.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:43 pmI will take to the road, spending the next week traveling the country to see as many US Attorneys as I can. The Persuasion Express is gassed up, the electrode batteries are charged and the water tanks are full. Let’s roll!
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:45 pmStaying for the Kids in the White House, maybe.
Alberto playing with those sad boys and girls. Makes you angry at all those adults dismayed about the DOJ’s corruption of the law.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:45 pmSubterfuge, diversion, and propaganda. Gonzales dishes it out and the ignorant (looking at Jake and Patrick(IQ of)1) lap it up. Yes, “for the children”. Because, as we all know, the first responsibility of the Attorney General of the United States of America is child care.
The culture of deceit and corruption that the Bush administration depends on (they didn’t invent it, but they have taken it to a level previously unimaginable) is so incredibly vile and anti-American that it is beyond belief. Those who either condone or accept this corruption- regardless of whether you are (R), (D), or (I) - are as despicable as the acts themselves and are equally as un-American.
Every parent in this nation should stand up and yell “foul”. Anyone who willingly allows Gonzales to use their children as the shield that he is doing now is as irresponsible as a parent that would hire a convicted child molester as a nanny.
Sounds harsh, but it is the reality.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:45 pmJake sez:
It’s pretty pathetic that Jake feels that comparing Gonzo favorably to Saddam Hussein is a worthwhile argument to make.
I’m sure that if you put Jake side by side with that Hitler fellow, Jake would look like a regular prince. Doesn’t make it so, however.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:48 pm“I’m not going to resign. I’m going to stay focused on protecting our kids.â€
Protecting our kids?
Pedophiles in Our Midst: Why is our government doing background checks on activists but not on its own staff?
GOP Family Values: Predators As Protectors
Why Capitol Pages Fear Retaliation: Capitol Hill pages kept quiet about Rep. Mark Foley’s suggestive e-mails for years out of fear that they would be blacklisted from future political jobs in the Republican-controlled U.S. government. This fear of retaliation was one of the lessons that the pages learned from watching how the adults behaved in today’s Washington. Continued here…
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:49 pmWill Gonzales be travelling to the Marianas Islands to protect the children? I see that his USAtty there didn’t open any investigations or prosecute one child exploitation charge in 2005.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:50 pmIf this talking point flops, Gonzo only has one card left to play:
“Jeebus told me he wants me to stay.”
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:52 pmTMM,
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:52 pmDon’t forget about NRCC Chief Tom Reynolds who hid behind children during a press conference about his dealings in the Foley fiasco.
You know… I have 3 kids… yet I don’t feel he’s protecting them at all!
Indeed, he’d be protecting them (and the rest of America) much better by stepping down as AG.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:53 pmVerbalKint (and RemoveBush):
LOL — I personally knew more than 3 non-Republicans backing Clinton’s impeachment. As for true Independents being satisfied with a show trial just “going through the motions”, hardly. Even i have said, IF Bush planted the demolition charges at the WTC, he should be impeached AND convicted, not just some show trial. You folks are loopy.
pgw:
Following the law is always O.K. by me ; )
AboveTheClouds:
Karl Rove will be pardoned first before he has any court appearances or trials. BTW: you’ve NEVER had “hazy memories†of anything before? What did you eat on April 3, 2000?
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:53 pmI am offically renaming this U.S.S. Unaccomplished to U.S.S. Embattled.
Lot of leaks are gonna bring this one down!
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:53 pmSo who pays for the gas so Abu G. can travel around the country trying to save his ass?
The Forked Tongue Express.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:57 pmdlet sez:
Oh, I haven’t, dlet…I haven’t forgotten about the “Snowflake Babies” photo op, either.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:57 pmAt least he wants to protect SOMEBODY in this country. Well, unless he is LYING ABOUT THAT TOO!!!
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:57 pmKarl Rove will be pardoned first before he has any court appearances or trials.
Comment by Jake
A person can not be pardoned until they are convicted.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:59 pmGonzo is running away, Jake. Just like the decider does. He’s trying
to take his ball and go home…. he’s showing that he’s a freakin’ coward,
and that he’s trying to hide from someone, or something. The “doing it
for the children” isn’t going to fly.
unless Foley escaped from club med….
Jake is crablice, dangling on the balls of the RNC.
Just so you “lurkers” know.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:00 pmHe should resign for the kids!
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:01 pm“VerbalKint (and RemoveBush):
LOL — I personally knew more than 3 non-Republicans backing Clinton’s impeachment. As for true Independents being satisfied with a show trial just “going through the motionsâ€, hardly. Even i have said, IF Bush planted the demolition charges at the WTC, he should be impeached AND convicted, not just some show trial. You folks are loopy.
Comment by Jake — March 22, 2007 @ 12:53 pm”
Jake…. Who said HE planted the explossives????
It was a FACTION of our government, but he did not stop it. He sat there and let it happen.
Perhaps you don’t know that Air Force ONE was threatened on 9/11 by CODED LANGUAGE???? How can terrorists know the code language for AF1 (Angel)?
Since Bush did not stop or try to prevent the attacks, he is an accomplice to TREASON. This is CLEARLY defined within the Constitution. Do you not think that preventing something because he is threatened is a reason to just do nothing?????
Maybe you need to do some more research??
Fox News Sunday, 23 Sept 2001, Tony Snow: “Sept. 11 there was a report that there was a coded message that said, “We’re going to strike Air Force One†that was using specific coded language and made the threat credible. Is that true?
• Condoleezza Rice: “That is true…. I will tell you that it was plenty of evidence from our point of view to have special measures taken at that moment to make sure the
president was safe.â€
• http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wpsrv/ nation/ specials/ attacked/ transcripts/ foxtext092301.html
Sept. 13, 2001, White House briefing:
• Reporter: “Can you confirm the substance of that threat that was telephoned in…that Air Force One is next and using code words?â€
• Ari Fleisher (Press secretary): “Yes, I can. That’s correct.â€
• At Sept. 26th briefing, asked again about this, Fleisher said “I’m not going to comment on any particular threats coming toward the White House.â€
• This matter needs further investigation, for such person(s) with top-secret information may still be a threat to the President and others…
• Tarpley discusses a large body of evidence and concludes:
“The official version of 9/11 says that the attacks came out of a distant cave in Afghanistan. But it makes more sense to explore networks and agencies which have means, motive, and opportunity, as well as a track record of advocating and promoting large-scale violence.â€
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:02 pmThat’s it. Hide behind the kids. That’s what the GOP leadership did when it was discovered that they knew about Foley and didn’t do anything to stop him. That’s what Bush does whenever the stem cell debate comes up.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:07 pmNice post, RemoveBush. Very informative.
Keep ‘em comin’.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:08 pmPatrick1, you dickhead:
Why are you the only one who brings up Clinton? Clinton is ancient history. Why don’t you start posting about all of the alleged wrongs of Caracalla while he was in power?
Look it up.
You shitbomb.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:13 pmA person can not be pardoned until they are convicted.
Comment by dlet
Tell that to Dick Nixon and all the other Watergate figures pardoned by Gerald Ford. It’s just not true.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:13 pmdlet:
A person can not be pardoned until they are convicted.
Wrong — see Nixon, Richard M.
RemoveBush:
Who said HE planted the explosives????
Someone on a past thread said he was secretly there the night before (and, no, I am not going to look it up since I have my hands full just responding to all the silliness here). If it makes you happy, I will modify my statement: IF Bush knew a FACTION of our government planted the explosives, and let it happen, he should be impeached AND convicted.
See how easy that is for a REAL Indepenent?
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:14 pmThe longer he stays, the more he hurts the Republicans and the more it helps the Democrats. My greater concern, however, is that the longer he stays in office the more it harms the country (unlike Repukes, I believe that country is more important than party). The implication that he’s being attacked because he’s Latino is outrageous bullshit. How low can you go, Gonzo?
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:15 pmhe believes the children are our future… la la la…
apparently Gonzo’s not interested in protecting kids from corruption…
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:16 pm“RemoveBush:
Who said HE planted the explosives????
Someone on a past thread said he was secretly there the night before (and, no, I am not going to look it up since I have my hands full just responding to all the silliness here). If it makes you happy, I will modify my statement: IF Bush knew a FACTION of our government planted the explosives, and let it happen, he should be impeached AND convicted.
See how easy that is for a REAL Indepenent?
Comment by Jake — March 22, 2007 @ 1:14 pm”
Then you will be getting on the BANDWAGON then to have Bush Impeached for TREASON I take it????
The evidence I provided is CLEAR that the so called “terrorists” could not have performed the attacks. The evidence provided shows that ONLY someone inside the government, at high levels, could have known the code words for AF1.
Unless you think that people living in caves can also know what our coded words are that only High level officials can know??
Since Bush was threatened, and he did not lauch a investigation IMMEDIATELY shows him to be part of the plan, either willingly or unwillingly. Therefore, HE COMMITTED TREASON against our country.
Section 3 - Treason Note
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
I would say that allowing an attack against the US falls well within that definition.
Don’t you?
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:20 pmIt’s just not true.
Comment by gummitch
Yep. You are correct. Thought I knew that from past searches but a pardon can be given anytime after the crime has been committed.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:20 pmLOL RemoveBush — no, I will not join your Fantasyland bandwagon. JFK was “threatened” the day before in Dallas and he did not immediately launch an investigation — did he kill himself? Or, wait, do you think FDR “allowing an attack on the U.S.” was treason too?? LOL
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:25 pmYep. You are correct. Thought I knew that from past searches but a pardon can be given anytime after the crime has been committed.
Comment by dlet
Sometime last week, IIRC, there were postings about a required five-year delay after conviction before a pardon could be issued, but I think the upshot was that it was a guideline and didn’t apply to Presidential pardons. In other words, like Nixon said, if the President does it it isn’t illegal.
And before the wingnuts start barking, this has been true regardless of party affiliation. The President’s right to pardon is pretty much unlimited.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:28 pmRe:[Comment by tom baker ]
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he has called him his “principal” in the past , tool is too good 4 Gonzo, lets call him butt-ler.
Yes Master, no Master, like this Master?
I’m Hispanic and I think Gonzo is dispicable. Everything we’ve fought for
over the years, equality and respect is in jeopardy because of this nitwit.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:30 pmJake sez:
Truly willfully ignorant, Jake. Well done.
Instead of building and demolishing ludicrous straw men, you might spend some of that energy educating yourself as to the realities of the world in which we live.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:30 pm“LOL RemoveBush — no, I will not join your Fantasyland bandwagon. JFK was “threatened†the day before in Dallas and he did not immediately launch an investigation — did he kill himself? Or, wait, do you think FDR “allowing an attack on the U.S.†was treason too?? LOL
Comment by Jake — March 22, 2007 @ 1:25 pm”
Hey NUMBNUTS……
It’s kind of hard for JFK to have launched an investigation into his threat when he was MURDERED!!!!
A MURDER is NOT an ATTACK against the US. Was a City bombed or taken over?
I knew you would backtrack and try to get out of your own words……. CHICKENHWAWK Republican…..
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:31 pmI’m staying for the “kids” … as in bush, cheney, & KKKrove?
He’s going DOWN one way or the other.
Game’s on!
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:31 pmThe first thing these cretins do when they are in trouble is hide behind ‘protecting our kids’ and getting rid of porn…They truly have no shame. How about Mark Foley? Remember him Abu?
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:31 pmThis ridiculous road show is being done to reassure the federal prosecutors that Gonzo really didn’t want to fire them all, it was just a big misunderstanding. Right. I’m sure the nation’s premier prosecutors will buy that.
“No, really, it was all just a joke, that Harriet Miers carried too far.”
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:35 pmOr, wait, do you think FDR “allowing an attack on the U.S.†was treason too?? LOL
Comment by Jake — March 22, 2007 @ 1:25 pm
I can only shake my head at Jake’s historical ignorance. Astounding.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:38 pmGonzales wants to stay to teach our kids that lying under oath is ok now. He’s right he will have to go door to door for that one. Oh another Fingers Foley. Fingers Foley wanted to stay for the kids too. I know Jake support these efforts as it’s a lot to be taught. Most Americans think it’s important to teach and protect their children. Now with the new Bush policy children are fresh meat for perverts and are being used for corrupt officials to stay in their jobs. All these guys are from the religious, family values and morals group. Use God’s name to commit crimes and now use children to hide behind your crimes. It might work .
Glad to see Jake is back from Iraq after joining the military that was a fist trip. After reading his comments I understand why Bush is getting away with destroying our country and Constitution. If there are more Americans who think like Jake we’re finished.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:41 pmSo your against Gonzo providing Congress with further information? This again proves you are simply head hunting. Do you even care at this point if he did anything wrong or not?
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:42 pmHey Gonzo, what the hell are you saying?!! Don’t you know “for the children” has been copyrighted by the Dems? Leahy’s going to sue you for copyright infringement, my man.
And besides, now you’re injecting politics into a political situation — which as we all know calls for another investigation — possibly waterboarding!
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:42 pmAlberto Gonzales’ sudden moment in the unflattering spotlight has prompted a new look at his background
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family members have repeatedly stumbled, creating a bleak counterpoint to his dazzling rise to become the nation’s first Hispanic attorney general.
Gonzales’ father was arrested for drunken driving five times in 17 years, covering much of Gonzales’ childhood and adolescence. Pablo Gonzales died in an industrial accident in 1982 when Gonzales was at Harvard Law School.
A younger brother, Rene Gonzales, died under mysterious circumstances in 1980. In 1991, the same year Alberto Gonzales became one of the first Hispanic partners at the white shoe Houston law firm of Vinson & Elkins, his younger sister Theresa pleaded guilty to possession of cocaine
with intent to deliver. Nine years later, while Gonzales was on the Texas Supreme Court, his mother and another brother signed over their houses to a bail bondsman to raise bail for Theresa after she was charged with the same offense.
Most of these details did not arise in his Senate confirmation hearings, even though they might reasonably have been thought to affect his views about crime, drug and alcohol policy, and sentencing — all issues overseen or influenced by an attorney general.
Their omissions illustrate the remarkable extent to which Gonzales, 51, has managed to control the telling of his life story and the impenetrability of his outwardly mild and friendly manner.
http://www.buffalonews.com/180/story/34944.html
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:45 pmThanks Jake,
This is a revealing statement about how right wingers justify their lemming-like adoration of the Bush administration. Apparently Bushco crimes aren’t “REAL” in your disturbed mind. Why don’t you ask Iraqis how “REAL” torture, rape and murder is for them and their families? Sociopath.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:45 pm“… his department has been “tremendous in the area of public corruption.â€
Indeed, it has been tremendous in hampering honest US Attorneys’ investigations into the rampant corruption of Republicans.
What a douchebag!
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:45 pmgummitch:
I’m sure you guys will find someway to claim Bush should be impeached if he pardons someone soon ; )
RemoveBush:
According to the conspiracy theories, Washington D.C. was indeed taken over on November 22, 1963. And, the President WAS warned about threats prior to his arrival and still refused a Secret Service request to keep the bubble-top on the limo — read the Warren Commission report, why don’t you?
Barfly:
There’s more “proof” that FDR allowed the attack on Pearl Harbor than there is Bush did. I’m not saying he did, but I’ve read several books on that theory too. Sorry you didn’t know about it before today.
mrjj:
Did his wife ever have cancer?
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:47 pmComment by Jake — March 22, 2007
LOL no but his pops was how to put this politically polite……? an illegal immigrant err migrant.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:54 pmOh that’s a good one. Can these guys possible be any more deceitful?Oh, I forget, they’re the “adults.” And we’re all the people who believe everything they say. Ri-i-i-ight
Whatever happened to the law’n order platform. Oh, yeah. Nevermind.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:54 pm“RemoveBush:
According to the conspiracy theories, Washington D.C. was indeed taken over on November 22, 1963. And, the President WAS warned about threats prior to his arrival and still refused a Secret Service request to keep the bubble-top on the limo — read the Warren Commission report, why don’t you?
Comment by Jake — March 22, 2007 @ 1:47 pm”
Jake….. Stop trying to TWIST the FACTS. The facts are that JFK is dead. He could not have performed a investigation into the threats. You can “claim” that Washington D.C. was taken over, but there are NO FACTS to support that, though I do believe it to be orchestrated by a similar group of people that peformed 9/11.
You simply have SPECULATION that this is what occured. However, on 9/11 we have carnage and the destruction of 4 planes and multiple buildings. Are you really gonna try and EQUATE the two?
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:54 pmGonzo: “it has been tremendous in the area of public corruption”
The funny thing is that is at least somewhat true. Furthermore, that’s what caused the problem. He had to fire the guys responsible for prosecuting the public corruption…
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:56 pmOh, here we go — similar people (LOL - carbon-based you mean?) were at the grassy knoll AND the WTC. Give me a break!
P.S. Willy — what do you think of these conspiracy theories?
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:00 pmYea he is really protecting our kids by makeing sure the mexicans can sneak all the drugs in our country and kill our kids.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmWill Gonzales be travelling to the Marianas Islands to protect the children? I see that his USAtty there didn’t open any investigations or prosecute one child exploitation charge in 2005.
Comment by Rita — March 22, 2007 @ 12:50 pm
That’s because Bush ordered the removal of the USAtty when he became too interested in claims of child labor, sexual abuse of women workers, and forced abortions. DeLay and Abramoff were up to their neck into that racket, with Abramoff lobbying for the manufacturing companies there. It’s called No Corporate Crony Left Behind.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmHow does one go about establishing relationships after one lies to Congress under oath? How can any of these US Attorney’s trust anything he says?
His defense now seems to be that these 8 were fired because they were not devoting enough time to child porn cases, like that is the most serious crime facing America today. I’m not saying to ignore child porn cases but to instead prioritize the case load and do as much good as you can. If that sometimes means child porn then go for it. If that means nailing “Duke” Cunningham then go for it.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:06 pm“Oh, here we go — similar people (LOL - carbon-based you mean?) were at the grassy knoll AND the WTC. Give me a break!
P.S. Willy — what do you think of these conspiracy theories?
Comment by Jake — March 22, 2007 @ 2:00 pm”
Run Jake, RUUUUNNNNNNN!!!!
Typical Republican Troll……
Say one thing and when they are called on it, with thier own words, they run for the hills.
How do you sleep at night??? Oh that’s right… You first need a soul before you can worry about things like this.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:06 pmBarfly:
There’s more “proof†that FDR allowed the attack on Pearl Harbor than there is Bush did. I’m not saying he did, but I’ve read several books on that theory too. Sorry you didn’t know about it before today.
And how did they get the information to write these books about FDR? Because historians had access to information; something this president is loathe to give.
At this point, we cannot know if Bush has broken the law, because of the stonewalling. And yes, stonewalling happened during the Clinton years, as well. Which leads me to ask: if you thought Starr’s actions were appropriate to get past Clinton’s stonewalling, do you now call for reauthorization of the Independent Counsel statute? If you were OK with the free-ranging Starr, how could you be against appointing a special prosecutor to look at the NSA wiretapping issue? Or are you afraid of what might be uncovered, if Bush were subjected to the same tactics Starr used on Clinton?
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:07 pmGonzo understands that Jeb Bush will need those kids for the draft when the war with Syria starts.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:07 pmYep Alberto is, and was, pree..tecting them children:
Amnesty International:
US authorities are believed to have held as many as 17 children at Guantánamo Bay. At least 4 of them remain there:Mohammed al-Gharani and Omar Khadr, who were 15 when detained, Hassan bin Attash, aged 17 when taken and Yousef al-Shehri, aged 16.
Another detainee, Yassar al-Zahrani, was reportedly 17 when he was detained. He died in Guantánamo in June 2006, after apparently hanging himself.
Thousands of children around the world have suffered pain and distress as a result of US counter-terror policies and practices.
Some have been held in indefinite virtually incommunicado detention without charge or trial. Some have been subjected to torture or other cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment. And many others still at home are tormented by the absence of their fathers, brothers and other relatives who themselves have been subjected to indefinite detention, in many cases for years.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:12 pmJAKE @ some location above Jake mentioned FDR and asked if allowing the PH attack constituted TREASON. It is TRUE the Churchill made FDR aware that the attack would take place. @ the moment the US was practicing ‘isolationism’ but we could have put our ships out to sea and still went to war in the Pacific w/ out high losses at PH. So yes it was an act of treason on FDRs part. However, FDR is quite DEAD and hanging him now would not change history.
BUSH is involved w/ the Project for a New American Century and in their words, “catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor” In this case though (9-11) there are three approximations…
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:14 pm1) The Feds story is true or
2) LIHOP = Fed let it happen on purpose or
3) MIHOP = Fed or minions of the Fed actually did the deed.
Since #1 has issues due to conflicting testimony and that having a pretend 9-11 during a real 9-11 indicates that #2 and #3 are more probable.
Dude, step down - we’ll hire a nanny for the kids.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:14 pmif you thought Starr’s actions were appropriate to get past Clinton’s stonewalling, do you now call for reauthorization of the Independent Counsel statute?
Comment by Barfly
I’m cool with that, Barfly. I have no hesitation based on what they might find out about Bush (which would be a lot less than what they found out about Clinton) — I just worry that investigations like these tend to drag on and on and cost tons of taxpayer $ with very little to show for it in the end.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:19 pmSay didn’t Foley also spout some such nonsense as Abu Gonzo?
BTW exactly how can someone protect children by lying under oath and helping to obstruct justice?
Jake how in the heck does a human shield and a rapist have anything to do with Gonzos obstructing justice? That is some crazy butt logic. Kinda like Ann Coulter using Rushs drug addiction as rationalizing a pardon for Libby.
But if Bill lies under oath he should be charged, and a ten million dollar investigation, but Abu Gonzo shouldn’t?
Jake. You say your an independent but your not, your just another groupthink apologist for the culture of corruption.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:23 pmRemoveBush, SayWho:
Keep bringing the Truth, fellas! The lies of this corrupt and criminal administration are eroding faster every day, right back to the BIG lie…the one upon which everything else has been built…9/11.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:26 pmSen. Leahy wants Karl Rove under oath so he can set him up in a perjury trap. [/Limbaugh]
…and Pus Limphog,
…your point is…
…what?
…if Rove has NOTHING to hide…
…he tells the truth (snicker)…
…if he lies…
…he’s caught and gets indicted…
…just as he should…
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:27 pm(which would be a lot less than what they found out about Clinton) — I just worry that investigations like these tend to drag on and on and cost tons of taxpayer $ with very little to show for it in the end.
Comment by Cynicon Implant
In the end the Senate acquitted Bill. Talk about a waste of taxpayers money. Why wasn’t Newt investigated? Oh so now the excuse to not charge Gonzo with lying under oath is beacuse it will cost taxpayer money, yet we are indebted up to our eyeballs for a war started on fibs.
I aint buying that line of carp.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:27 pmJAKE It is worth mentioning that a man named HITLER who was in need of some start-up cash for the Gestapo paid a visit to NY through an ANGLE and was able to secure corporate sponsorship till 1943 by developing a relationship w/ Prescott BUSH who ran a little bank there called Brown & Harriman that is now known as Brown Brothers Harriman. After WWII, Prescott was fined $10,000.00 for his involvement.
Check it out but when lightning strikes it is cause for alarm but when it strikes over and over at the same point we have to move.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:30 pmI just worry that investigations like these tend to drag on and on and cost tons of taxpayer $ with very little to show for it in the end.
Comment by Cynicon Implant
Like no bid contracts for Halliburton? Like 8 billion (cash) lost in Iraq? Like the huge debt the ‘fiscal republicants’ are building? Like the backloaded taxes that will come due in 2011? And your worried about money spent to investigate obstruction of Justice? Why don’t we just let people out of jail then? Why don’t we just tear down all the courthouses?
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:31 pmI just worry that investigations like these tend to drag on and on and cost tons of taxpayer $ with very little to show for it in the end.
Comment by Cynicon Implant
Yeah that damn waste of time Whitewater investigation.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:33 pmCynicon: “I have no hesitation based on what they might find out about Bush (which would be a lot less than what they found out about Clinton) — I just worry that investigations like these tend to drag on and on and cost tons of taxpayer $ with very little to show for it in the end.”
Yeah, sure you do. Say, what exactly did they find out about Clinton? Did he lie in a SOTU address to gin up a phony argument for going to war? Did he threaten his own OMB accountant with termination if he told congress the true cost of legislation? Did he purposely destroy an important intelligence asset for political purposes? Did he fire federal prosecutors in the middle of embarassing investigations into his friends? Did he oversee manipulation of scientific data to help large corporate campaign donors? Did he drop the ball on the nation’s greatest threat and allow the largest terrorist attack in history? Did he or his people help steal the 2004 election in Ohio (republicans have been convicted of election fraud on this one, by the way)? I don’t remember anything like that — I remember that Clinton was impeached by the house for lying about a sexual affair and for sticking his head into his secretary’s office and asking her if repubs were treating her ok (repubs claimed this was “obstruction of justice.”)
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:34 pm[quote]Q: General, you were kept out of the loop on the U.S. Attorney firings. Can you still be an effective attorney general? [/quote]
Was Jeff Gannon asking the questions? Class act Sleazy Gonzales,using the children card. DYNOCORP has a great track record with children and they get no-bid Defense Dept.contracts every where we take our shock & awe.Who is writing this crap?Makes me want to vomit.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:36 pmJAKE Operation Horthwoods was declassified and it depicts an interesting tale. The then Joint Chiefs of Staff proposed shooting down our own aircraft and then blaming it on Cuba/USSR. JFK did not allow this proposal to be acted on (shortly after JFK was assassinated).
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:39 pmStay for the children? Give me a break.
These guys are just shameless. Using children to justify their continued pillaging of the country makes them no better than pedaphiles.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:39 pmCan ANYONE imagine…
…for the next two years…
…looking at Abu Gonzo as the country’s CHIEF Law Enforcement Officer…
…and RESPECTING…
…our so-called “Rule of Law”?
…this criminal, and his masters are a DISGRACE to our Constitutional Republic…
…and we the people need to vociferously and steadfastly work for their ouster…
…and incarcerations…
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:40 pmSay, what exactly did they find out about Clinton?
Comment by Bluedog49
Well, let’s see. He had convicted criminals as partners. He sexually harassed a woman (P. Jones),
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:48 pmStaying for the kids? What a ruse.
The screed;
“This is a hospital, but it’s also - it’s a place full of love. And I was most touched by meeting the parents and the kids and the nurses and the docs, all of whom are working hard to save lives. I want to thank the moms who are here. Thank you very much for you hospitality…There’s a lot of talk about budgets right now, and I’m here to talk about the budget. My job as the President is to submit a budget to the Congress and to set priorities, and one of the priorities that we’ve talked about is making sure the health care systems are funded.†– Egleston Children’s Hospital, Atlanta, Georgia 3/1/01
The truth;
Bush’s first budget proposed cutting grants to children’s hospitals like the one he visited by 15% ($34 million). His 2004 budget additionally proposes to cut 30% ($86 million) out of grants to children’s hospitals.
Yeh, Gonzo and crew are worried about the children. Not.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:49 pmSay, what exactly did they find out about Clinton?
Comment by Bluedog49
Serial liar and rapist
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:51 pmComment by Flaco — March 22, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
Get lost, freak.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:55 pmWell, let’s see. He had convicted criminals as partners. He sexually harassed a woman (P. Jones), Comment by Cynicon Implant
Is that all you got — past clenis history?
What about Enron ? What about Oreilly? What about Cunningham? What about Foggo? What about Abramoff? What about Safavian? What about port deals? What about shill Gannon? What about that?
Serial liar and rapist
Comment by Flaco
Flaco is talking about Newt.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:56 pmOh god. Someone left a box of the favorite troll food “Clinton” open again. They are feasting.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:57 pmSo, Alberto Gonzales claims he wants to help the children. If you recall, Seymour Hersh has reported on a second set of tapes from Abu Ghraib prison involving the sexual molestation of children. (Link here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/7/14/193750/666). These tapes have not been released to the public, due to the massive wave of revulsion this would engender. Furthermore, Gonzales himself has endorsed the policies at Abu Ghraib. (Link here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4989481/). If Gonzales were truly interested in helping children, he would work to have these tapes released so that the perpetrators of these crimes could be held accountable. The cover-up by the Bush/Cheney regime, including Gonzales, makes them complicit in these crimes.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:58 pmJAKE All wars are use suspended disbelief to be waged since the main reason for a war is possession of resources. Resources of old were passage, land, slaves, wealth, and materials. The main resource today that makes all things possible is OIL. We cannot attack Iraq without first painting the correct picture to suspend disbelief. Iran is now being painted the same way. Words like EVIL, sadistic, cruel and criminal add the needed affect.
WWI was waged by the Turks in a place called Mesopotamia that is now know as Iraq and Bush 1 created Saddam w/ help from Donald R. Help me out JAKE but someone once said that, “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.â€
His first name is Joseph
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:59 pmMerrill Robert Barter: The Republican County Commissioner pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy
Flaco I think I hear one of your patriotic heros calling you, better run along now little boy. BTW keep your legs crossed.
March 22nd, 2007 at 3:04 pmJAKE Joeseph Goebbels also said, “Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.â€
March 22nd, 2007 at 3:06 pm#151 Thanx, How could we forget?
March 22nd, 2007 at 3:07 pmKeola Childs: The Republican County Councilman pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Hey Flaco, I got you a date with a very moral patriotic republican who has superb family values.
March 22nd, 2007 at 3:14 pmSigh Crow Flake-O Oz
Multiple personalities
March 22nd, 2007 at 3:20 pmOh god. Someone left a box of the favorite troll food “Clinton†open again. They are feasting.
Comment by dlet —
All except Jake; I guess his “independent” status just took a hit. Otherwise, he’d have chirped up and said it was ok with him if the independent counsel statute were re-authorized, for Bush.
March 22nd, 2007 at 3:24 pmJAKE I’m speaking to you. I’m telling these things to you so that you realize that the results of GROUP THINK are NEVER GOOD! To know that Hitler killed 6 million Jews is important but is also not the only massacre that happened.
WW2 was over and Patton freed the German POWs. IKE was furious and demanded these Germans be captured and held. In several large camps mainly in France these POWs were starved to death in muddy ditches. Shortly after Patton who survived 2 world wars died as a result of his car flipping.
Much later on IKEs letters to his wife clearly indicated that IKE “HATED” Germans and was in fact a full blown Zionist. I’m not condoning Hitler but IKE starved 11 million Germans to death. Here are some (every dot is a German)
http://home.arcor.de/ kriegsgefangen/ photos/ rheinwiese.gif
March 22nd, 2007 at 3:25 pmOn behalf of the kids I would like to invite Gonzo to resign because of the kids rather than stay.
March 22nd, 2007 at 3:28 pmHeard something REALLY disturbing (infuriating) on C-Span…
…a caller said that in the Cayman Islands…
…there is a certain two story building…
…that is the registered address of some 22,000 corporations…
…whose uncollected (due to the offshore address) taxes…
…just 15% mind you…
…added up to over $100 billion dollars…
…the discussion at the time (on C-Span) was the supplemental funding bill…
…the Democrats have proposed…
…If true, isn’t this just abominable?
…Why do RULES only apply to the “little people”?
…Because we ACCEPT this sh*t, that’s WHY!
March 22nd, 2007 at 3:34 pmJAKE GROUP THINK is NEVER GOOD! To know that Hitler killed 6 million Jews is important but is also not the ONLY massacre that happened.
WW2 wa