Thank You For Fighting For The Truth
Thank You For Fighting For The Truth
Last week, nearly 100,000 of you came to ThinkProgress and wrote to Bob Iger — President and CEO of the Walt Disney Company — demanding ABC tell the truth about 9/11. Tens of thousands more wrote Disney Chairman George Mitchell and ABC affiliates. You had an impact:
– ABC stopped marketing Path to 9/11 as “based on the 9/11 report.”
– An extended disclaimer report ran three times during the first night alone.
– Scholastic stopped promoting Path to 9/11 to students.
– Prominent media commentators, including many conservatives, spoke out against the film.
– Substantial edits were made to the film.
In short, you accomplished a tremendous amount in less than a week.
Nevertheless, we remain disappointed that ABC decided to air several false and defamatory scenes. 9/11 is too important not to get it 100% right.
But ABC and the rest of the media now know that there is a large group of people out there who care deeply about the truth.
The truth is what the corporatists want it to be.
Sadly, a majority of ‘mericans will continue to buy it.
September 11th, 2006 at 10:59 amI am proud that ABC did not cave under the scrutiny of the left wing. I am also proud that they zoomed in on Bill Clinton’s wagging finger, while Al Quieda plotted to attack America.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:02 amthanks to think progress for leading the fight.
you all did a great job under severe time pressure.
now
i hope we will see a lot of discussion about the book “hubris” as well as james moore’s new book on karl rove,
both of which “the path to 9/11″ may have been designed to overwhelm with respect to media coverage.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:03 amIt is amazing how evengelicals are proud to be liars.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:05 am# 2 Jason–Remember when Clinton actually wanted to go after bin Laden and the repukes in congress kept accusing him of “wagging the dog” to distract the country away from the repukes Monica obsession?
No, of course you don’t.
Remember when Bush received a Presidential Daily Briefing entitled “bin Laden Determined to Strike U.S.” while on vacation at his fake pig farm on August 6, 2001 and he did absolutely nothing?
No, of course you don’t.
Go be ignorant somewhere else.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:06 amPride is a deadly sin.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:06 amWhat kind of a person is “proud” that he’s been lied to and treated with complete contempt by corporate media?
Stay obsessed with that wagging finger, pal. It’ll get you far. You’re a model corporate citizen, preoccupied with trivia as you’re being fleeced and sent to the poor house.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:06 amMore people watched The Giants and Colts, anyway. And tonight is Prisonbreak…
September 11th, 2006 at 11:08 amChristians for “truthiness”.
Yes. I’m sure that’s what Jesus meant when he admonished his sheeple to tell the truth.
/off sarcasm
September 11th, 2006 at 11:14 am“But ABC and the rest of the media now knows that that there is a large group of people out there who care deeply about the truth.”
… none of which work at ABC.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:14 amAll we have to do is speak truth to power.…especially in the face of dubius leadership.
Don’t forget who said,“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
Notice he didn’t say preserve, protect and defent the Corporations of the United States.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:15 amThank YOU, Judd, for your hard work and dedication, it is greatly appreciated. I am an avid reader of thinkprogress.org, and always look to your site for news the MSM fails to report - or, often, reports a bit incorrectly (tongue-in-cheek sarcasm).
I am pleased your site chose to address this issue. As a mother of four, I am highly offended at any group that decides they need to educate my children, and myself, with their own views of “truth”. Political propaganda should not be an issue of concern AT ALL for Disney and Scholastic. I once believed Disney was a “family oriented” organization. I thought the same of Scholastic. I have never bothered with ABC and they certainly have given me a reason not to bother with them in the future.
I will actively boycott any company who perceives they have the authority, obligation or responsibilty to influence my children’s education via corporate lies. I cancelled my accountS with Scholastic this morning, and my account with Disney Video Club. For Big Business to assume they have the right to peddle garbage to my children is truly the highest insult. I highly object to the timing of this film, and feel it is a desperate attempt to unduly influence the upcoming elections.
Thanks again and keep up the good fight!
September 11th, 2006 at 11:15 amAnother sad aspect to the ABC debacle: The “news” side stepped in immediately to provide defense for this nasty piece of “entertainment.”
What’s left of “Nightline” since Ted Koppel’s departure turned up immediately after the fictionalized version to throw more mud on the Clinton administration. I guess we know who’s working for whom.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:16 amFive years later. For 911 and the 2900 dead, are we to boast that we have sent another 2,900 to their deaths and maimed another 20,000 faithful Americans? And what about 100,000 inocent Iraqis? Is this insanity ever going to end? Apparently, not as long as these facsist pigs continue to sell “911 death” as an American right to worldly dominance.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:19 amJust like this story
Funding transparency act passes Senate,
what we have here is another victory for those people who have replaced ‘being lied to’ by ’standing up for the truth’. Apparently, it works. Onto the next project…
Congratulations!
September 11th, 2006 at 11:20 am#13 - … I guess we know who’s working for whom.
At times like these I wonder how Republicans could possibly justify the similarity of what they have created with Germany during the 1930’s, or Soviet Union propaganda up through the 1970’s.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:22 am#2.
Who cares if they didn’t pull it.
The ratings were sh!t. And the crock-u-mentary was exposed for what it was. Scholastic dumped the study guide, and ABC had to retool the film at the last minute.
ABC will suffer the consequences when they kick off their new fall line up, and no one watches.
Note to the Repugs:
September 11th, 2006 at 11:23 amSwiftboating will not work in 2006.
The “official” story is just as bogus as ABC’s “new fiction”. Especially when one considers that Dr. David Ray Griffin has written a book about the 9-11 Commission
and essentially rips their findings to shreds. Hell even Richard Clarke seems to have lied in front of the commission about who authorized the Bin Laden family
flights outta the country in the days afterward. You feel like a punching bad yet?
So get your heads outta the clouds, the 9-11 Commission is just as much a work of fiction as this partisan sideshow ABC is promoting. Read, study and learn the
September 11th, 2006 at 11:23 amhistory of terrorism and you’ll be amazed, shocked and then sickened. The terrorists are us…….. Operation Northwoods? Operation Gladio ?
Did anyone watch the movie?
September 11th, 2006 at 11:24 amEXCELLENT !
i’m so glad you put up this thread… i wanted to suggest this idea yesterday, when it became appearant that abc was going ahead with airing the show…
it is so important to acknowledge that an extraordinary attempt was made to prevent this blatant example of propoganda, and that some positive goals resulted…
thank you, JUDD and TP for all the hard work you put in to this latest pursuit of TRUTH and JUSTICE… know that it was well worth the time and effort expended, even if the results were short of those desired.
as you said, “…the media now knows that that there is a large group of people out there who care deeply about the truth.”
September 11th, 2006 at 11:25 amwe must keep reminding them…
Excellent work Judd and all at Think Progress!
September 11th, 2006 at 11:27 amI am proud that ABC did not cave under the scrutiny of the left wing. I am also proud that they zoomed in on Bill Clinton’s wagging finger, while Al Quieda plotted to attack America.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
September 11th, 2006 at 11:28 am==
I am proud that CBS did not cave to the scrutiny of the wacko aramgeddon war for the return of the messiah wing by showing the Reagans on Showtime. I am also proud that they zoomed in on Reagans mistakes, while he allied himself with AL Qaeda what he deemed the “freedom fighters” those extremists who attack america today emboldened by the appeasement of the right wing.
LOL! Yet another “Victory†for the left. Maybe if you all whined a little louder they might have inserted a scene where PNAC plans the attack on 9/11 with Cheney/Rumsfield/Bush in attendance. Before I forget, how is that Plame conspiracy theory panning out? How about all the neocons pressure Herr Fitzgerald to drop the charges in exchange for allowing him to retire into obscurity? Otherwise the Republicans should demand an immediate accounting on why Fitz went forward with an investigation that had already been solved AND that no crime was committed. Talk it over with Ober-Fuehrer Clinton and sub-Fuehrer Halfbright.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:30 amIs it me or has 9/11 hype been ratcheted up this year? Same thing with the Blame Clinton meme (if he was such a bad president then surely Bush could have changed things by now). They must really not have any issues to run on this year.
and that pt911 was by far one of the most poorly put together movies I’ve seen in a while - to say nothing about the bias and inaccuracies.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:31 amKudos TP!
now, could you work on the blog software, or maybe upgrade the server? This hitting F5 repeatedly to see the latest posts is starting to wear on my index finger..=)
THanks Again! =)
and BTW Jason..looks like my name stealer [third parrot] has nailed you to the wall…again..Pity that.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:34 am“– ABC stopped marketing Path to 9/11 as “based on the 9/11 report.â€
September 11th, 2006 at 11:37 amWell, that’s too bad because the 9/11 commission report is already full of ommissions and distortions.
It probably would have been more accurate in that regard.
Oh well, still good to see that there’s still a large portion of Americans who stand up against this propaganda.
I watched Ted Koppel’s program last night on Discovery (8pm-11pm Eastern Time) entitled, “The Price of Security.” It laid out a good deal of the history of what happened after 911, i.e., the Patriot Act, NSA domestic spying, extraordinary rendition, and many other examples of a government moving toward totalitarianism. After the main documentary, there was a panel with people either currently or previously in the government, on a spectrum of left to right. There was a “Townhall” type discussion, with the audience also being comprised of people considered “far-left” like George Soros and as far-right as John Yoo (famous for his 2002 “torture” memo..later repudiated by the administration in 2004). There were also about 7-9 relatives of the 911 attacks in the audience. The comments were very interesting, and in the case of people like John Yoo and Viet Dihn, scary as hell. Koppel’s closing statement was (paraphrased), “We hope this debate continues, before it’s too late to be able to do so.”
September 11th, 2006 at 11:37 amI’m just getting started. These Disney assholes tried to institutionalize lies to my children and I AM PISSED OFF.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:37 am#5 - So in other words Clinton would have gone after Bin Laden but he was being called names. So he let the national security be compromised because he could not stand up to the political heat that he brought on himself.
What a great leader. Clinton avoided political risk at any cost.
If anybody is ignorant it’s yourself.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:40 amTalk it over with Ober-Fuehrer Clinton and sub-Fuehrer Halfbright.
Comment by Retired Republican Soldier
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Hey Soldier, my father served in wwII, as did my mothers new husband that was shot down, but survived, in a bomber.
Doesn’t it make you angry that Prescott Bush and his connections with Harriman Brown bros. Actually help to appease and finance Hitler?
You know that Guy who killed a whole lot of Jewish people,not to mention a whole lot of American soldiers such as yourself?
How can you today back these same people and try to say that those you mentioned above financed germany?
I mean, you do know this right?
You are supporting the very war mongers today that may have killed some of your relatives?
Soldier..wake up.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:40 amBefore I forget, how is that Plame conspiracy theory panning out?
You mean President Bush admitting that he is the one that authorized the leak?
Otherwise the Republicans should demand an immediate accounting on why Fitz went forward with an investigation that had already been solved AND that no crime was committed.
Fitz didn’t start the investigation, the CIA requested it because they were upset that a very serious crime was committed.
And this was a victory because what was touted as a documentary had to be admitted that it was just a drama and all legitimacy of the project is gone. Maybe you should go whine and make shit up on a different message board.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:41 amNow maybe we can put the same effort into Tuesday’s anti-Democratic propaganda from ABC.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:43 am#2 Jason M. Hendler
I am proud that ABC did not cave under the scrutiny of the left wing. I am also proud that they zoomed in on Bill Clinton’s wagging finger, while Al Quieda plotted to attack America.
Translation: It pleases me when a right-wing corporation can get away with falsely blaming failures on Clinton and helping Bush avoid blame for his own incompetence and deceit, because, after all, I have no interest in seeing or hearing the truth and I hope the American people don’t get to see or hear it, either. Otherwise, my team is going to get its ass kicked in November.
Is that about right, Jason?
September 11th, 2006 at 11:43 amHAMILTON - Republican Sen. Conrad Burns told a boisterous crowd in Hamilton on Sunday that he’s the candidate for U.S. Senate who is not “a lawbreaker.â€
Members of the audience took offense and shouted “psycho†and booed as Burns claimed that Democratic Senate candidate Jon Tester has an illegal slush fund, has taken “unreported†trips to Taiwan, and made illegal phone calls to raise campaign funds.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:44 am==
Just like we need to Boo more of thes GOP clowns!!
and ABC of course..
I’m proud that the guy who followed him was smart enough to read his PDBs while Al Quaeda plotted to attack America. Oh, wait…um, never mind.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:47 amBuckley you can spin that any way you wish but at the end of the day you guys were practically masturbating over the prospects that Rove was the one. You were wrong.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:48 amKoppel’s closing statement was (paraphrased), “We hope this debate continues, before it’s too late to be able to do so.â€
Comment by impeachcheneythenbush — September 11, 2006 @ 11:37 am
i watched cbs all night, from 60 minutes (i must say - katie did well with her piece on the respiratory ailments suffered by 9/11 workers) to the ACTUAL/FACTUAL documentary “9/11″… i tuned into the ending of koppel’s show - and am hoping there will be a re-run i can catch - but that statement at the end was stunning… hopefully NOT prophetic…
September 11th, 2006 at 11:48 amJason (No. 2), I’m sure you are proud. Pride being one of th’ seven deadly sins ‘n all.
Are you also proud of the fact that you did not provide a substantive response to a single criticism of “Path to 9/11″ over the past few days? Are you proud of the fact that you supported misleading the American public? Are you proud that you screamed “fascist” and “Stalinist” every chance you got? Are you proud of falsely accusing of us of “censorship,” when last time I checked, none of us was on the government payroll?
Ya got a lot to be proud of, dude!
September 11th, 2006 at 11:48 am#34
this is a very heated debate in montana. and runs commercials all the time about how he is not a liar and lawbreaker. the folks in montana call bs
September 11th, 2006 at 11:50 amNo Limit Hypocrisy
September 10, 2006
The front page and headline article of Sept. 11 by Derek J. Moore by the Press Democrat was one heck of a commemoration of this tragic event. I believe Mr. Moore did fairly well to portray the event in an even handed manner, especially the front page introduction. The fly in the ointment of this piece isn’t the article itself but the photo piece that heralds it. The photo is a composite of four photos in one: Old Glory flapping, President Bush staring, Osama bin-Laden staring back, and a fireman’s helmet, signifying heroism. This composite contradicts the very text of the article. But before I continue I must state this: Our hypocrisy can go only so far—mine included. The image of the flag has been exploited to no end. Its patriotism has been lost in a blender. President Bush had stated that the attackers of 9/11 hate us for our freedom and yet since that horrible event he did his best to curtail that very freedom. And then there Osama bin-Laden lurking about, his head still on his shoulders. President Bush’s first order of business—and promise—was to parade bin-Laden’s head on a stick. It’s been five years so the question is: What’s the hold up? Now the helmet, the Heroes of Ground Zero. Bush did one great photo op with an old firefighter and that’s it. Five years later, nearly all the firefighters along with thousands of government workers are dying from the site’s air pollution and the majority of them are deny of medical and worker’s compensation. Where is President Bush? Is there no limit to this hypocrisy?
September 11th, 2006 at 11:50 am… A group that ABC and all other American media can continue to ignore, because they know the American liberals are too weak to put up a real fight and that thet choose to stand up for their political convictions only when they don’t conflict with their quest for mind-numbing entertainment, which places them exactly where ABC, Fox and the ruling fascists wants them.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:51 am#5 - So in other words Clinton would have gone after Bin Laden but he was being called names. So he let the national security be compromised because he could not stand up to the political heat that he brought on himself.
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Allow me–
The big news in the above-sourced Washington Post story, however, is that bin Laden’s own flight from the mountains of Tora Bora was apparently captured on videotape, which has been obtained by the CIA. The tape shows bin Laden
“[C]onfidently instructing his party how to dig holes in the ground to lie in undetected at night. A bomb dropped by a U.S. aircraft can be seen exploding in the distance. ‘We were there last night,’ bin Laden says without much concern in his voice. He was in or headed toward Pakistan, counterterrorism officials think.
“That was December 2001. Only two months later, Bush decided to pull out most of the special operations troops and their CIA counterparts in the paramilitary division that were leading the hunt for bin Laden in Afghanistan to prepare for war in Iraq, said Flynt L. Leverett, then an expert on the Middle East at the National Security Council.
“‘I was appalled when I learned about it,’ said Leverett, who has become an outspoken critic of the administration’s counterterrorism policy. ‘I don’t know of anyone who thought it was a good idea. It’s very likely that bin Laden would be dead or in American custody if we hadn’t done that.’ Several officers confirmed that the number of special operations troops was reduced in March 2002.”
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Yeh Bush took a month of vacation before 9/11 ignored the PDB and then went “SOFT” on Osama, his no#1 priority.
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I reiterate;
“The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him.”
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01
“I want justice…There’s an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, ‘Wanted: Dead or Alive,’”
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
“…Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy, who, three months ago, was in control of a county [sic]. Now he’s maybe in control of a cave. He’s on the run. Listen, a while ago I said to the American people, our objective is more than bin Laden. But one of the things for certain is we’re going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that’s what’s happening. He’s on the run, if he’s running at all. So we don’t know whether he’s in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open — we just don’t know….”
- Bush, in remarks in a Press Availablity with the Press Travel Pool,
The Prairie Chapel Ranch, Crawford TX, 12/28/01, as reported on
official White House site
“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
“I am truly not that concerned about him.”
September 11th, 2006 at 11:51 am- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden’s whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)
#34
the montana folks are seeing right through this. it is a heated debate. this clown runs commercials all the time about how is the man of honesty.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:52 amJust a reminder, Bill Clinton is no longer president and has not been president for six years. When are the Republicans going to act like they’re in charge and start taking responsibility for things instead of finding excuses and scapegoats?
September 11th, 2006 at 11:53 amI can’t find anyone who even watched the movie or anyone who even cares it’s 911 today.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:54 amRight here in Texas.
So in other words Clinton would have gone after Bin Laden but he was being called names. So he let the national security be compromised because he could not stand up to the political heat that he brought on himself.
Republicans opposed Clinton going after Osama so it is Clinton’s fault. Bush refused to go after al Qeada when it was found out during his administration that Osama was responsible for the Cole attack so it was Clinton’s fault. Bush and his administration chose to ignore the PDB that said Osama determined to strike US so it was Clinton’s fault. Bush and Rummy let Osama slip away from Afghanistan and disappear so it is Clinton’s fault.
See how silly that sounds.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:54 amOther things for Jason to be proud of:
1. Cheney appointed to head counter-terrorism panel in February 2001. Didn’t have a single meeting before 9/11. Way to be on top of things, Dick!
2. Claims by Gen. Hayden and Dick Cheney that if they had warrantless wiretaps before 9/11, it would have prevented it from happening. They did and it didn’t. Oh well.
3. CIA briefer hands vacationing Bush memo entitled “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US.” Bush’s response: “All right. You’ve covered your ass, now.” Ah, that was a proud moment indeed. George W. Bush, World’s Biggest Screw-Up, blowing off the memo that’s telling him what’s about to happen on 9/11.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:01 pmTry hating the terrorists more than you hate Bush.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:02 pmSee Jason, I was a Republican, now I have divorced myself of the constant deluge of media propaganda and corruption that the GOP has started to accept as ‘normalcy’….Hollow words repeated endlessly by the mind numbing ignorance of such drug addicts as Rush Limbaugh…who himself is a hypocrite,and that quite Oddly,or not, that the GOP holds this drug abuser, Rush, in high regard.
Only a hypocrite would support Rush Limabaugh and his demented and deluded racist Archie Bunker hate speech.
Archie Bunker was an actor, and I laughed at him because he portrayed a extremely biased meathead….Rush Limbaugh is not funny, nor an actor, and he seems to believe his inane incoherent rants..I guess a drug addiction will do that.
Anyway, if that is all the compassionate conservatives have to offer is screeching hate speech then they are not compassionate are they?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:02 pmYou can watch PBS FRONTLINE’s documentary on John O’Neill “The Man Who Knew” for free online at here. Harvey Keitel requested a copy of the FRONTLINE film in preparation for his role in the ABC docudrama.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:07 pmWhat I’d be curious to see is a poll starting tomorrow that indicates what people who saw the miniseries believed before and after watching PT9/11. Who did the think was to blame before watching the show. And who do they think is to blame now?
I’m kinda hoping, with Bush proving to be so incompetent, and all the negative publicity surrounding the show, that few if any people got suckered into thinking this was an acccurate fact-based docudrama. But even if one person got duped, it’s one too many. Disney stockholders should be furious, because I predict the lawsuits to be filed on this mistake is gonna effect the bottom line, big time
September 11th, 2006 at 12:07 pmI will do my very small part, and never watch ABC again. Bill Clinton was the most brilliant president this country has ever had. Wasn’t peace and prosperity nice?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:08 pmAny word on whether Apple is still planning to distribute over iTunes? I wrote to the iTunes group last week asking them not to.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:10 pm#46 - Republicans opposed Clinton going after Osama so it is Clinton’s fault.
Amazing how you avoid the obvious. Clinton was the President not the republicans. So if Clinton would have done his job there would not have been 911.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:14 pmRE: 52 The prosperity was great… I wouldn’t go so far as to call it “peace” though. Let’s not mislead people here…
September 11th, 2006 at 12:16 pm#48
September 11th, 2006 at 12:16 pmOne and the same. One inside our borders, one outside our borders. Both want an end to what America stands for.
But ABC and the rest of the media now know that there is a large group of people out there who care deeply about the truth.
Precisely - and they knew that all along - that’s why the decided it was important to “catapult the propaganda”
September 11th, 2006 at 12:17 pm#42 - Just a shame that Clinton did not take advantage of the oppurtunities he had as President to take Bin Laden. That you cannot deny. But you guys want to give him a pass and shift everything to Bush. Clinton was not a leader. He was and is a scammer.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:18 pmDoes anybody know what the ratings were? I didn’t realize until yesterdy that part one was airing against the Manning vs Manning (Giants vs Colts) game and then tonight for part 2, it’s up against Monday Night Football on its sister network, ESPN. I just can’t see it doing too well against that. They think it will get better ratings and more money for them than the NFL? Is Disney completely crazy?? I hope that because 9/11 fell on a Monday wasn’t the ONLY reason they gave MNF to ESPN. If so, there is some serious mismanagement happening at that company…
September 11th, 2006 at 12:19 pmTry hating the terrorists more than you hate Bush.
Comment by Cheeks
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I don’t hate bush, nor Cheney, I do not have much use for liars and incompetence. Bush I hear may be a fun go to party with. But this isn’t a rave.
Now, Cheeks, if you were say.. running a business, and this employee, we will call him George, has only filled 30% of his quotas, I would fire his butt, I mean wouldn’t you?
Try not hating your fellow Americans by falling for the hate baiting of the inane coulter pundits.
Besides, by listening to Coulter, Limabaugh or Faux News they hate 70% of America, and want to poison Judges and blow up people, that’s scary hateful..maybe you should take your own advice Cheeks.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:19 pmdidn’t watch it and wont and frankly don’t give a shit about 9/11. why am i going to go in ‘prayer’ and ’somber’ with the government? that would be crying with the terrorists. what the poor victims want is their families to wipe the tears and get in the ass of the worlds biggest terrorist: rothchilds (israel), bushwhack and the loonytunes, saudi arabia.
just a little fyi: my sis just returned back from 2 weeks in ireland. and of course had conversations with the irish folks. and my fellow americans the irish have absolutely NO sentiment with the americans. they believe this was an inside job in which im sure their media is more provacative than ours. they can NOT stand bush and frankly they are NOT liking the americans. so i’m glad all (reichwingers) think that world sentiment is in our favor. and in FACT, when you all get out of your bunkers, stop listening to your #1 terrorist (bush=which is no better than ‘atta’) and travel you will find the opposite.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:19 pmDumbass, Bush admitted it. Bush is way better than Rove. Remember it will be history that Judges these assholes. Rove will not be remembered at all and Bush will be remember as the worst president ever.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:19 pmRemember a few years ago when ABC trumpeted that they were doing a “documentary” on Atlantis? Yhey promoted the bejesus out of this supposedly “accurate” portrayal of a mythical place. Of course, it was only coincidence that their parent, Disney, was about to release a film titled “Atlantis”! By allowing themselves to become mere shills for products released by their corporate cousins, ABC forfeited any claim to being a credible “news” medium.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:20 pm#54 “Amazing how you avoid the obvious” - yup, I completely missed who was President on August 6th and on September 11th. Was it Clinton? Since Clinton caught the ‘93 bombers and did enough to catch the Millenium Bomber, then I’m going to guess he wasn’t president in 2001. That much is obvious.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:20 pmStay obsessed with that wagging finger, pal.
Sounds like an unhealthy obssession with me - probably because of deep, repressed homosexual urges. If jason is so obsessed with wagging phalic symbols, I suggest that he give in to his “natural urges” and be the “girlie man” that mother nature intented.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:20 pmIf Clinton is a scammer, Bush is the ring leader of the Scammer’s Brigade.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:21 pm#54 - If George Bush had done his job and treated the August PDB seriously or listened to Richard Clarke and Clinton’s admonishments to keep an eye on OBL, then there would not have been 911. Try to focus on who was in charge, okay?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:21 pmSo whats the next step? We can’t let ABC get away with this?
I hope someone starts legal action against ABC for the false scenes they created which are readily available via YouTube and elsewhere.
Anything we can do to get their FCC license revoked?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:23 pm#42 - Just a shame that Clinton did not take advantage of the oppurtunities he had as President to take Bin Laden. That you cannot deny. But you guys want to give him a pass and shift everything to Bush. Clinton was not a leader. He was and is a scammer.
Comment by Ben
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You are puttin the cart before the horse Ben. It was ABC that started this Blame Clinton for 9/11 wasn’t it?..
But let’s be realistic here.
Did or did not the GOP ally themselves with the mujahdeen and the Iran Contra rebels [Ollie North] during the war in
Afghanistan?
And did or did not Reagan call these extremists his ‘freedom fighters’?
I think you will have a very hard time refuting that.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:23 pm#46 - Republicans opposed Clinton going after Osama so it is Clinton’s fault.
Bush refused to go after al Qeada when it was found out during his administration that Osama was responsible for the Cole attack so it was Clinton’s fault.
Bush and his administration chose to ignore the PDB that said Osama determined to strike US so it was Clinton’s fault.
Bush and Rummy let Osama slip away from Afghanistan and disappear so it is Clinton’s fault.
See how silly that sounds.
Exactly!
When will Republicans stand up and take responsibility for their actions? At this rate, perhaps never… sad, really… the Greedy ‘Ol Parasite party is dying under the weight of it’s own stupidity and arrogance…
September 11th, 2006 at 12:23 pmFifth Anniversary of 9/11/01 Attack
Monday 11th of September 2006
by Jay Randal
Today is the Fifth Anniversary of the 9/11/01 terrorist attack on the WTC complex, in New York City, and on the Pentagon building, next to Washington, DC.
The tragic attack killed a couple thousand Americans, wounding the pride of the entire nation, but the Bush Regime used the tragedy to justify an attack on Iraq?
NO ties to Saddam’s Iraq have ever been proven in the 9/11/01 event, but nonetheless Pres. George Bush has insinuated repeatedly that Saddam was involved?
VP Dick Cheney has claimed repeatedly that Osama’s terrorist organization had an alliance with Saddam, but both of them have always been mortal enemies?
Iraq has vast pools of untapped crude oil deposits, so apparently 9/11/01 has been used as a pretext to take control of Iraq’s oil fields, and to regulate production?
Even though the Iraq occupation has turned into utter fiasco, with Iraqis slaughtering each other maniacally, Pres. Bush refuses to concede defeat and leave the oil?
( Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Stone Mountain, Georgia.)
PS: Every decent American must band together to boycott ABC/Disney for broadcasting a GOP funded phony docu-drama on 9/11/01 tragedy.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:25 pm#67 - Try to remember that OBL was handed to Clinton 3 times. Again Clinton does his job there would have been no 911. Try to focus on the truth.
Same thing for you #64. Guess what Bush never had the oppurtunity to take OBL like Clinton did. But Clinton was a political coward.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:27 pm#72
September 11th, 2006 at 12:29 pmName those three times that OBL was “handed” to Clinton please.
First off, it goes towards my theory on Rightwingers (You never really accepted Bush as president therefore you don’t hold him responsible for his actions as president) second, isn’t that one an urban myth?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:29 pmRE: 67 Toonguy, when it comes to the PDB… Can anyone tell me what today’s PDB said? What about 9/11/2000’s? My point is simply that for all we know every PDB has warned of Bin Ladin attacking in the U.S. since the 1998 bombings of his base in Afganistan. It’s unfair, I feel, to take 1 PDB out of context with nothing to compare it to.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:29 pmPeter Jennings is rolling over in his grave right now. I’ve blocked ABC/Disney on my TiVO and will be giving all of their content the lowest possible ratings allowed. Hit em were it really hurts..their ratings.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:31 pmNo he wasn’t liar. Give some proof. Any proof. Links to reports, something. You have nothing but lies, liar.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:31 pmBen, that sounds like the sort of unsubstantiated drivel that Nowrasteh was claiming as fact in his “docu-drama.” Got any facts (from an independent source) to back it up?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:31 pmLook, even this guy realizes the mistakes;
Sunday, September 10, 2006
BY DEBORAH HOWLETT
Star-Ledger Staff
In the thick of a hotly contested U.S. Senate race, Republican Tom Kean Jr. has decided to make a sharp break from George W. Bush, saying the president has made “horrendous mistakes” in Iraq, is “dead wrong” on the environment and also wrong to limit stem cell research.
Kean issued a scathing critique of his party’s standard-bearer during an hourlong interview with The Star-Ledger. Kean labeled the federal response to Hurricane Katrina a failure and rebuked Bush for allowing federal spending to balloon without issuing a single veto.
Such criticisms might be standard fare for a Democrat but are as sharp as any yet from a Republican running in the midterm election under the cloud of the president’s low approval ratings.
Kean, a state senator from Union County, sat down at a Westfield diner for an interview specifically to highlight his differences with Bush as he heads into the final lap of his close race with Democratic U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez. Kean spoke Thursday, the day his campaign unveiled a video ad on the Web that never mentions Kean’s party affiliation and touts the 38-year-old son of former Gov. Tom Kean as an “independent reformer.”
He said he was unconcerned about any partisan fallout from his comments.
“If it means that I’m angering the White House, so be it,” he said.
Between sips of hot water with lemon wedges, Kean ran through a litany of issues in which he took exception to administration policies.
“There have been horrendous mistakes made in the war in Iraq,” Kean said. “The president should acknowledge that. He needs to level with the American people.” –The Star Ledger
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What you say to this??
Of course the Rovian trolls wil label Kean as a Bush hater for voicing his own opinion and not the GOP Fax Du Jour.
Kudos Mr Kean jr.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:31 pm#69 - Yeah the Afghan rebels were fighting , uhhh, Russia I think.
That’s no point.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:32 pm#48 - Try hating the terrorists more than you hate Bush.
What? You want me to hate a people who have nothing? You want me to hate a people who couldn’t hurt a flea, even if they wanted to? You want me to hate a people who love peace as much as we proclaim? You want me to send my son to a place that had nothing to do with 9/11, and a place that was wary of al Qaida?
How about this? I hold the Bush Cabal accountable for taking their eye off the ball. I hold the Bush Cabal accountable for failing to follow up on all the warning signs that were put to Emperor Bush personally. I hold the Bush Cabal accountable for invading and occupying a country that had nothing what so ever to do with the events of 9/11. I hold the Bush Crime Family accountable for letting UBL escape.
If this were any other administration, I would feel more comfortable that UBL would have been caught, made to stand trial before the world, and jailed for his crimes against humanity.
Instead, we are now faced with the Bush Cabal, every single member of which should see jail time for their own crimes against humanity.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:32 pmTry to remember that OBL was handed to Clinton 3 times. Again Clinton does his job there would have been no 911. Try to focus on the truth.
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I have seen no proof of that..maybe if you watched the ABC movie you might get that false impression. The fact is that Bush went soft, as above, and isn’t going after his #1 priority, is he?? Nor does he care..he said so. I gave you the quotes.
Nevertheless Pakistan, whom bush just sold alot of missiles, is now offering Osama a home. And the Taliban is once again abusing women and the opium crops have hit near record proportion, The west of Iraq has been lost politically and the Kurds have raised their own flag, dismissing Bush democracy by war..
So what has George Accomplished in the middle east?
In effect nothing..
September 11th, 2006 at 12:39 pmLet’s put it another way. You’re a security guard at a factory. The guy whose shift you take over warns you to keep an eye on some suspicious activity he noted on the South gate. He suggests some things to do about it. He’d stick around, but the boss says for him to go home - it’s your responsibility. However, you ignore him. Then when crooks come in and rob the factory during your watch, you blame the guy who noted the activity - you say he should have had the crooks arrested.
Now imagine you’re the boss of these two guys. Can’t do anything about the first guy, he doesn’t work there anymore and clearly he followed all of the laws. But you can fire the guy currently in charge of security. So what are we going to do, America?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:39 pmLet’s keep fighting for the truth. The 9/11 Commission report is not the truth, it’s a whitewash put together by a very stacked committee in response to incredible public pressure. Dealing with the lies in the docudrama is just the beginning — now let’s work on getting past the lies in Bush/Cheney’s “official” story.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:44 pmSame thing for you #64. Guess what Bush never had the oppurtunity to take OBL like Clinton did. But Clinton was a political coward. Comment by Ben —
With the combined resources of the federal government, and six years - where’s Osama? Why has he been allowed to run around loose?
Opportunity? Bush has had plenty of time, and as for Clinton, 9/11 hadn’t happened yet; but Bush has been responsible for bringing Bin Lader to justice for killing thousands of Americans - Where’s Osama, Ben? Will you admit Bush’s incompetance?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:45 pm#69 - Yeah the Afghan rebels were fighting , uhhh, Russia I think.
That’s no point.
Comment by Ben
It’s not? Really? So funding terrorists is no longer a point?
Hmm. How about giving Saddam WMD, is that also now a non-point?
Don’t you think that maybe funding terrorists is a bad idea?
Let me follow Bens logic.
Clinton is no longer president so that’s “no point?”. =)
That brings us back to today and Bush.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:45 pmAnswer me Ben, what has bush accomplished in Iraq or Afghanistan? Other than death and debt things have gotten worse, not better. What has been accomplished?
STILL waiting for Jason M. Hendler to “stand up for freedom of speech” and call for the Pres. Reagan docu-drama to be aired.
The Pres. Reagan docu-drama producers caved under the pressure of the right-wing nuts to not air the show and they have proven they hate free speech.
Come on, Jason, stand up for freedom of speech!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:46 pmBen, I really have to say, that you’re a fool. How is it that people like yourself are so easily fooled, and find it virtually impossible to do research on your own? I’m not talking about liberal/’conservative’ websites, but documentaries, looking up dates, looking up CSPAN once in awhile?
Unfortunately, you miss out on wonderful things like the following…George Tenet, saying that bin laden was not bombed while visiting a UAE hunting ground, because the admin was worried about the impact of killing UAE royals…Yet, flash forward to recent months, when the bush admin decided it was ok for UAE government owned company to control our ports? Yea, buddy…man, you are so lost and programmed with fake history that, quite bluntly you don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground.
Any joker that tries to tell 50% of his fellow Americans they’re traitors and cowards when exercising their right to dissent, and demand accountability from their elected leaders, is a goddamn fool. And I’ll tell you middle America is getting right tired of crap spewed by people like you; the writing is on the wall, pal. “Ooooo, look, terrorists around every corner, and hiding in the bushs (bush’s?)”
September 11th, 2006 at 12:47 pmThink for a moment about the concerted action by Democrats, their lawyers, former White House operatives, Bill Clinton, sympathetic historians, and lefty bloggers to stop this show. Remember that this was the same crowd that was full of praise of for Fahrenheit 9/11 for crystallizing their opposition to George Bush. Accuracy and versimilitude didn’t bother them then. And they weren’t saying a word about 60 Minutes “fake but accurate” story on Bush’s National Guard service. Now, ask yourself. If this crowd were to control the White House, how many more of these attempts to stifle any criticism of them would we be seeing? Think of how much has been aired during Bush’s tenure, even a movie depicting him being assassinated and more denials of civil liberties gets made without Bush’s White House unleashing its lawyers. But, for this thing, the Democrats go to the mattresses. Are they perhaps modeling for us what their response would be to further criticism if they should gain control of the White House - or even of Congress? Don’t forget those not-so-veiled threats to ABC’s license. Ponder that chill wind.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:48 pm-http://michellemalkin.com/
There are also a lot of people committed to reform including several members of the Senate who signed onto a remarkably strongly worded letter to ABC. Payback is a bitch.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:48 pmOnt hing that is encouraging is that I have only heard one person mention this film, and he is a full bore, kool aid drinking, moonbat limbaughite.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:50 pmI’ve noticed a lot of my fellow Republicans posting here lately… Just out of curiosity, why are you guys arguing with the liberals? It only took me about 5 minutes to figure out that changing their minds, would be like one of them walking into your church and turning you into a muslim… AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN! Personally I’ve been checking in on a daily basis to try to do some learning of my own. I DO think Bush has taken his eye off the ball (with Bin Ladin). I do think that if things keep going the way they are, we’ll eventually have to have another military draft. As a combat vet and a father of a 12 year old son, there’s no way in HELL I’m gonna let my son be drafted! Not by this administration or any other for that matter. I sincerely pray that those of you christians and/or republicans that are here, join me in learning from our “friends across the aisle”.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:51 pmBetsy Newmark writes, “It’s about time that people remember Sandy Berger”:
One benefit of the controversy surrounding Path to 9/11 is that people are beginning to remember that there was once a National Security Adviser named Sandy Berger who later stole Top Secret documents from the National Archives.
In her lengthy post, Betsy looks at what documents Berger stole. And Jim Geraghty’s PR rep sent me a copy of his new book, Voting To Kill, which includes this extremely prescient quote from a 2001 New Yorker article on the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing: Almost before Freeh could finish, Berger demanded, “Who else knows about this?” Did the press know? This was the last question that Freeh expected from a national-security adviser. Not many people knew, Freeh replied. The information was very closely held. Berger also questioned some of the statements linking the bombing to the Iranian government.
“That’s just hearsay,” Berger said.
“No, Sandy,” Freeh replied. “It’s testimony of a co-conspirator in furtherance of a conspiracy.” Berger, Freeh later thought, was not a national-security adviser; he was a public-relations hack, interested in how something would play in the press. After more than two years, Freeh had concluded that the Administration did not really want to resolve the Khobar bombing.
And that cycle of being more interested in how something would play in the media rather than actually killing terrorists very much appears to be repeating itself with Berger and the rest of the Clintonistas’ reaction to The Path To 9/11.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:52 pmIt’s unfair, I feel, to take 1 PDB out of context with nothing to compare it to.
Comment by coachjason
September 11th, 2006 at 12:53 pm==
As it is the same to take one docudrama, out of context [[from the 9/11 report]], ands use that, unfairly?
Now, ask yourself. If this crowd were to control the White House, how many more of these attempts to stifle any criticism of them would we be seeing?
Coming from a syncophant, it’s high praise indeed. The part I’ve quoted is hilarious - obviously you’re blind to what has accurred in the last six years. Who gets called traitorous on a regular basis? The last six years have seen manty more”attempts to stifle criticism” than in the Clinton admin.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:55 pmWe did a lot of work to stop this thing from airing but to say we were successful is pure bs. The disclaimers are meaningless and the cuts seem superficial. The botom line is that the gop, the neocons and theocrats got everything they wanted — a film that portrays dems as caring more about how they look than how they govern. That was the goal and I think we will see the republican poll #’s start rising later this week and continue to rise till their pathetic victory. Before this 40 million dollar piece of pure propaganda was released, I thought we had a good shot at taking back the house and the senate. I doubt that will happen now.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:57 pmCheeks,
Why are you afraid of a potential payback?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:57 pmI don’t think we’re done yet. Do you, Judd? Let’s keep the momentum going, oganized boycotts. How about a campaign to write Timmeh about his appalling lack of follow-ups to Cheney?
Mobilize!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:57 pm“taken his eye off the ball”? HAHA, are you kidding? Have you not heard that the special task force assigned to locating bin laden was disbanded about 2 months ago? No big deal was made about it in the news, but yea, it’s true.
THey have no intention of catching bin laden, they have all they need to from him to continue with their War on Americans.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:57 pmOK, Clinton may not have been very successful with Osama Bin Laden but he never said he didn’t care, like Bush has. Further, hasn’t it been obvious that BushCo was trying to undo anything Clinton did and to chart as polar a course to Clinton’s as possible? BushCo dismissed Clinton during his presidency, so isn’t it likely that they dismissed his focus on Al Qaeda as well? Stay the course, indeed.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:57 pmStirrling sentiments coach - now if you could just convince “Cheeks” to pull his head out of his a*s!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:58 pmI’ve noticed a lot of my fellow Republicans posting here lately… Just out of curiosity, why are you guys arguing with the liberals? It only took me about 5 minutes to figure out that changing their minds, would be like one of them walking into your church and turning you into a muslim… AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN!
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Why would you want to change peoples minds?
Are you God? DO you know all that there is to know?
Are you the self appointed Judge and Decider?
Who the heck are you to try to tell me how to think?
You give nothing but baseless opinions and don’t deal in facts.
You aint gonna change any minds with ranting [would be like one of them walking into your church and turning you into a muslim] such silly opinions.
Its a Democracy, remember?
Issue some FACTS Coach so people can agree with them or Disagree with them. I am not gonna sit here and argue opinion.
BTW Coach who is your favorite football team?
Cause they suck..=)
September 11th, 2006 at 1:00 pmBetsy Newmark writes, “It’s about time that people remember Sandy Bergerâ€:
One benefit of the controversy surrounding Path to 9/11 is that people are beginning to remember that there was once a National Security Adviser named Sandy Berger who later stole Top Secret documents from the National Archives.
Betsy Newmark is a liar, and so is Cheeks for posting her lies!
They were copies, not “top secret documents.”
September 11th, 2006 at 1:01 pmI cannot agree that “substantial edits” were made in the show. Cosmetic is the word that comes to my mind.
The whole premise of the show has been to show how 9/11 was Clinton’s fault. It falsely shows bin Laden cornered but because Clinton was sidetracked by the Lewinsky affair and bin Laden was allow to escape. A later scene following the embassy bombings claims the Clinton has the blood of these bombings on his hands for not approving the earlier attack on bin Laden.
There are no amount of edits that can correct this film short of cancelation. Obviously, scenes from this will be used in this election to portray Democrats as weak on terrorism. And that is the whole point of this movie.
The next step will be slander suits filed against the author and Disney. If this costs them billions, so be it.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:01 pmNational Security Adviser named Sandy Berger who later stole Top Secret documents from the National Archives.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:04 pm==
He took home a copy of Clarkes report. The originals still exist and he was caughtwhat more you want?..Besides those reports had nothing to do with 9/11 occuring.
would be like one of them walking into your church and turning you into a muslim -Coach Jason
This is really immature Coach..sounds akin to a Coulter republican screech, of course I wouldn’t expect anymore from Jason Hendlers sockpuppet..
September 11th, 2006 at 1:07 pm#81
I see you have compassion for the people who want to destroy the country you live in. Who want to kill your children. Who want to take your freedom away. You have made your position clear. You would rather stand with the enemy than with your own country. You would rather make excuses for their behavior rather than confront evil. Join them…………be gone.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:07 pmI just have to disagree with # 13 about Nightline….it began by reiterating that the fim was fiction and Brian Ross proceeded to set the record straight…..not sure what more you wanted from the News folks.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:07 pmHey, Coach Jason, will ya stop bein’ all rational and polite ‘n stuff! Yer gonna give TP a bad name.
Just kidding. But Coach Jason has a point. All this screaming back and forth gets nothing accomplished.
Neither, of course, does a phony “docu-drama,” but we all knew that already.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:07 pm#73, #74 & #82 What is wrong with this?
A good place to look is the report’s “Chapter 4: Responses to Al Qaeda’s initial assaults,” Section 4.5, “Searching for Fresh Options.” There you have details of how Bin Laden was ready to be plucked, but someone in the administration either ignored or nixed it. Or put it on an endless “you-decide, not-me” merry-go-round.
For example, the report said the CIA was receiving “reliable” reports that Bin Laden would be in the Sheikh Ali hunting camp in the Afghan desert south of Kandahar until at least midmorning of Feb. 11, 1999. The military was targeting him for a hit with cruise missiles, and only needed a green light. Yet, no missiles were launched, to the disappointment of field agents and the CIA’s “Bin Laden” unit. By Feb. 12, Bin Laden had moved on, and the golden opportunity passed.
Still, the CIA hoped that Bin Laden would return to the popular camp, but Richard Clarke, the nation’s counterterrorism chief, may have blown it by calling the United Arab Emirate to express his concern about the their officials associating with Bin Laden at the hunting camp. Being no fools, the terrorists within a week had “hurriedly dismantled” and deserted the camp, the report said.
In May, 1999, the report said, the administration may have missed the best and last opportunity to hit Bin Laden with cruise missiles as he was moving in and around Kandahar. “It was a fat pitch, a home run,” a senior military official told the commission, confident of the intelligence and the possibility of minimal “collateral damage.” The report picks up the story:
“He expected the missiles to fly. When the decision came back that they should stand down, not shoot, the officer said, ‘We all just slumped.’ He told [the commission] he knew of no one at the Pentagon or the CIA who thought it was a bad game. Bin Laden ’should have been a dead man’ that night, he said.”
September 11th, 2006 at 1:09 pmThanks Judd and everyone else involved in the effort to get ABC to stop this pernicious propaganda in documentary’s clothing from airing.
The fact, however, remains that the program was aired Sunday night and ABC plans to air the conclusion tonight.
ABC responded to the righteous anger of thousands of Americans to its attempt to piss on our shoes and tell us it’s raining by…doing it anyway and saying “never mind about the wetness, it’s damp out.”
Two thoughts:
A boycott is surely in order. Since ABC cowardly chose not to allow sponsorship of the show Sunday, a boycott of all advertisers on all ABC programs may be just the 2-by-4 needed to apply upside the heads of the mules running ABC, if only to get their attention.
If you see an ad running on an ABC program, don’t buy from that advertiser, or if you regularly do business with that advertiser, call them and tell them you will not be doing business until they stop advertising on ABC. I know that’s what I will be doing.
Secondly, there was quite a bit of profane language on the first broadcast. If the accidental showing of Janet Jackson’s nipple can cost CBS $550,000 in 2004, surely the deliberate decision by ABC to air offensive language, in English and Arabic, should prompt the FCC to fine ABC more heavily for each occurrence.
Take ABC to the FCC. We want our airwaves back.
God bless the Americans who died on 9/11/2001 and curse the Americans who cynically used the tragedy and its aftermath for their own political and financial gain.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:12 pmDave Von Ebers… Seems like no matter what I write there’s still a liberal out there who wants to pick a fight (see Trinary Suka). Unless she’s kidding, or she has been to war and likes it, I’m not sure which. At least I can usually count on you to have a level head.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:12 pmFunny thing about the “docu-drama”. After all this hype this past week, I forgot it was on last night (thought it was tonight), I watched big brother (no not that one) Payton beat up on little brother Eli…
1. Take note of the lists of ABC advertisers some people have posted (there’s decent list of ABC’s advertisers at DailyKos).
Don’t let them think this is going to blow over. Contact them and let them know that because of their relationship with ABC/Disney you’re/we’re going to boycott their products/services.
2. Even though disclaimers and the like were show in the US market, Austrailians and others were shown the original unedited version. In addition to that, ads claimed that the movie was “The Truth” or “The True Story” about 9/11, and none of the comments from people in Austrailia mentioned seeing any disclaimers.
ABC must be made to pay a heavy price for using the public airwaves to broadcast right-wing propoganda, and since we can’t count on those in the positions of power in Washington to do anything about it other than silently pee their pants in glee (I’ll bet Jason made a mess too) we have to take it upon ourselves to make our outrage heard and felt.
On a side note, while waiting for my car to be inspected this morning I sat down in the waiting area and what was on the TV but GMA, and of course they were talking about 9/11. I couldn’t stand sitting there watching an ABC program, so I said so out loud and left the area. I was encouraged to see that I wasn’t the only one who felt the same way! Maybe I should have tried getting some employee to change the channel but I didn’t.
Anyway, I know that I’m not alone in saying that ABC is ‘channel non grata’ in my home, and to tell you the truth I haven’t watched anything on ABC other than sports for years.
Really, once I started reading Media Matters for America I fully realized how little real news I was getting, and how the so-called “liberal media” was actually biased towards the WH’s talking points in countless cases!
Finally, please do your part and speak up. Unfortunately we can’t rely on traditional sources to dispute the right’s lies, although there ARE wonderful and dedicated investigative journalists who are doing their jobs, trying to fight the seemingly endless tide of propoganda and lies produced by the Bush administration and it’s followers.
Outfits like The Center for American Progress, Common Cause, MediaMatters.org and many others.
I’d also like to mention the honorable Rep. John Conyers. He’s done his part (MORE than his fair share) to stand up to the bullies and thugs on the Republican side. Where are the rest of our so-called representatives, eh?
Too few and far between I’d say… most of them worrying much more about getting re-elected that doing the right thing.
Sorry for the long post, I’m a bit agitated (so, what else is new? :-)).
I know I really should save the long posts for my blog (which I seem to neglect many times in favor of ‘comments’ like this).
Maybe next time, eh?
[go Pats!]
September 11th, 2006 at 1:13 pmI see you have compassion for the people who want to destroy the country you live in. Who want to kill your children. Who want to take your freedom away –cheeks
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Actually George is removing your freedoms, you know he hates that Gottdamn piece of paper..
I have no compassion for terrorists, put your watercolor projectionist set away cheeks.
These wars, bombing whole countries for a rag tag bunch of religious extremists that have no country, only serves to create more terrorists and hatred that want to attack america and kill your children..your logic is faulty in this regard.
War creates hatred.
This is an asymmetric warfare that cannot be defeated by shcock and awe, like in Iraq, it must be fought in other ways.
look at Afghansitan, it created more Talibans, more drugs, and more, not less terrorists cheeks.
Think about it, 5 year later Shock and Awe, has made you less safe in the battle of Assymmetric warfare.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:16 pmTHINK.
The people here are not appeasers of terrorist, so please stop repeating that lie. YOU just can’t fight it the way the Bush admin is doing it….it hasn’t WORKED!!
Tell George Mitchell - fire Lyin’ King Bob Igor
September 11th, 2006 at 1:16 pmStill, the CIA hoped that Bin Laden would return to the popular camp, but Richard Clarke, the nation’s counterterrorism chief, MAY have blown it by.
MAY is proof of nothing.
I MAY be a muslim…sheesh..
You are basing your truth on a MAY?
September 11th, 2006 at 1:22 pmCmon Ben, you just shot your own toes off with your MAY
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And no coach I am not arguing with you, but you sound alot like Jason Hendler, are you or are you not Jason Hendler?
Coach Jason MAY be Jason Hendler
See I just proved Jason is Hendler using Ben’s MAY logic!! =8^]
September 11th, 2006 at 1:25 pmSeems like no matter what I write there’s still a liberal out there who wants to pick a fight (see Trinary Suka). Unless she’s kidding, or she has been to war and likes it, I’m not sure which. At least I can usually count on you to have a level head.
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I know many people that have been to war coach, none of them liked it, but here you go again painting broad projections.
I did not compare you to muslims in a church did I?
I asked you, and you did not answer, who are you to tell me how to think or to change my mind?
September 11th, 2006 at 1:28 pmThat’s your bet shot? Playing games? Out of all of that you find the word may one time and that squelches the whole deal. Maybe you would like to argue the use of Reliable” since that is not definite. I can tell you are a true Clintonista. How would you define “is”?
Suka, you’re killing me. You’re weak my boy.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:33 pmSo, let me get this straight - censorship is PROGRESS?! Maybe you should rename your blog, “Think Stalinist”
September 11th, 2006 at 1:34 pmI want to also ask Cheeks if the high tech Lebanon war with Israel defeat the asymmetric warfare of Hizbullah?
No, it killed few actual terrorists but leveled a whole city killing many innocent people.
It created more extremist members..not less.
Patriots [team] Sucks Wind!!
September 11th, 2006 at 1:35 pmMostly I’m disappointed in Thomas Kean.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:41 pmTrinary Suka… I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind. THAT WAS MY POINT. I was asking that all the Republicans who ARE here to change people’s mind, to give it up. All I’m looking for (and all I think they’ll find) is the sharing of knowledge, of which I have gained plenty since visiting this liberal site. I managed to put the disdain that I thought I had for liberals aside because in the end I think we share many of the same goals. If that goal does not satisfy you, then you don’t have to respond to my posts… I will grant you the same privelidge and not respond to you either if that is what you want.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:42 pmThank you Think Progress! This is what the power of the people can do…if everyone would just get it. We all have a voice, both the left and the right side, just tell the truth. It is all Americans want. We want the truth. The families of 9/11 and the tragedy of Katrina want the truth. That’s it. I think our very survival depends on it.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:45 pmBTW I am not Jason Hendler.. And I don’t think I sound anything like him. I maintain that I have,use, and employ common sense… something you rarely see from him
September 11th, 2006 at 1:45 pmThanks for your splendid work on this issue.
If ABC had not withheld copies from non-cheerleaders, and we all had a few more weeks’ lead time, perhaps we could have killed it outright. Imagine clips of this piece on the web a month ago.
I am horribly disappointed in ABC and ashamed of some of the coverage of the piece, that fails to note that this not an issue of “Clinton officials upset because they look bad,” but instead an instance of “grossly factually inaccurate, fabricated material.” ABC deserve continued pressure. I wrote up a initial reaction to part one on my blog - no fair-minded, reasonably intelligent, fairly well-informed person could think the ABC piece was unbiased. But I’m concerned that its intended effect, to swing the November midterm elections, may succeed. I have never seen a major network produce and endorse such a piece of propaganda.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:49 pmTS my friend, I agree with everything in your [last] post (and most of the others) but that last part!
You must have forgotten that the Patriots won a bunch of Superbowls recently… Did we happen to beat *your* team?
Forgive me, but “Patriots [team] Sucks Wind!!” sounds a bit like some of Jason’s outlandish/ignorant statements…
The next thing you’ll be saying is that the Yankees *don’t* suck!!!
;)
Well, as I frequently say “opinions vary”…
Peace
September 11th, 2006 at 1:52 pmAmen Michelle! Though I do agree that certain members of my party have brought shame upon the whole of us… I ask that you don’t lump us all together. I can’t speak 4 everyone, but I think that most of us just want the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth… no matter who it effects
September 11th, 2006 at 1:54 pmReminds me of a line in the movie “Kingdom of Heaven” … “tell the truth even if it leads to your death.” Very powerful words I think!
So, let me get this straight - censorship is PROGRESS?! Maybe you should rename your blog, “Think Stalinist†Comment by BCMG
It is progress to censor (in the layman’s sense of “condemning” objectionable material) information that is false, misleading, and aimed at distorting history. This was not “censorship” as a government endeavor to limit information to the general public - that’s BushCo’s “terrortory”.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:54 pmGreat job, Judd, TP and everybody. If only we could organize ourselves to make more positive changes…(its called democracy, but sshhh, the government can hear us)
September 11th, 2006 at 2:00 pmThank you for keeping us informed and giving us tangible ways to express our outrage. You blogs made a serious impact by allowing ordinary citiziens to participate and to channel our outrage to achieve resylts. It is disappointing that ABC did not ultimately pull or correct all of the inaccuracies. However, by marshalling us to take action you have created an activist base upon which to draw. Keep up the good work!
September 11th, 2006 at 2:00 pm