As Katrina Struck, Bush Vacationed
As Katrina Struck, Bush Vacationed
In 2001, the Federal Emergency Management Agency ranked a major hurricane strike on New Orleans as “among the three likeliest, most catastrophic disasters facing this country,” directly behind a terrorist strike on New York City.
Yesterday, disaster struck. And even as one of the strongest storms in recorded history rocked the Gulf Coast, President Bush decided to continue his vacation, visiting the Pueblo El Mirage RV and Golf Resort in El Mirage, Ariz., to hawk his Medicare drug benefit plan. (Bush will spend one more night in Crawford tonight before flying back to Washington.)
What Bush saw in El Mirage: The majestic beauty of the El Pueblo Mirage RV and Golf Resort
What Bush missed in New Orleans: The scarred façade of the Hyatt Regency Hotel
What Bush saw: Guests at Pueblo El Mirage showing off their bikes
What Bush missed: Leonard T. Harris, Sr. walking his bike through the gaping hole where his kitchen used to be
What Bush saw: At El Pueblo Mirage, guests relax on the luxurious greens
What Bush missed: In Louisiana, residents dig themselves out from under the trees
What Bush saw: At El Pueblo Mirage, the waterfront brushes up against the 12th hole
What Bush missed: In New Orleans, the waterfront brushes up against the front door
…..he was running from Cindy Sheehan!
August 30th, 2005 at 4:26 pmI saw on the news this morning footage of a man crying because he couldn’t hold his wife in the current. The woman interviewing him was also crying because of the things he was saying. I almost cried. If I were not running late for work I would have.
Bush is a piece of sh*t.
August 30th, 2005 at 4:26 pmThe water is rising around the superdome. THere’s no air conditioning, the sewer system has stopped, toilets are overflowing, I heard a man jumped to his death inside the Superdome from a second floor tier.
When are they going to evacuate these people. Soon it will be nightfall.
CNN has the Governor of Mississippi incapable of leading, talking about how the generators in the SuperDome can only deliver enough to power the lights, and those generators are failing.
Meanwhile….
August 30th, 2005 at 4:26 pmCheck out Wonkette. McClellan ADMITS that Bush really can’t do proper President work from Crawford. All this time they insisted that he could do anything in Crawford as easily as D.C. Now, flip-flop! Bush really can’t get as much work done on vacation, can he?
August 30th, 2005 at 4:28 pmWhere is FEMA? Fema spokesman says they’re are moving in light-building teams - meaning if one or two buildings are in jeopardy, the teams can go in and assess.
The downtown area, french quarter, superdome, are becoming encircled with water. St. Bernard’s parish to the east of downtown is almost completely under water.
Meanwhile FOX news discusses with a Pentagon spokesperson whether a 2-star or a 3-star general will head up rescue operations.
Meanwhile - New ORleans drowns
August 30th, 2005 at 4:30 pmWolf Blitzer CNN just had a representative from St bernard’s parish on the phone. The man started accusing the Army Corps of Engineers of ignoring the protests of St Bernards Parish citizens for 10 years who wanted the corps to get rid of canal that runs from Lake Pontchartrain to the mississippi river alongside New ORleans. THe canal was basically a convenienced canal for boaters to get from the lake to the river. And now that is where the levees have been breached and water is flowing into the city. So the man was basically saying the Army corps of engineers and the feds are responsible for the current flooding in New Orleans occurring after the storm has passed.
Of course, Wolf immediately stopped this man from saying anythign more, cut him off and went to another reporter.
August 30th, 2005 at 4:36 pmJust heard they are evacuating the Superdome.
Beautiful montage, nico, btw.
August 30th, 2005 at 4:37 pmdonate directly 1800-Help-Now
August 30th, 2005 at 4:39 pmI’m watching CNN - it says the LA governor has said the rescue centers need to be evacuated. but they’re not doing it yet.
Meanwhile all the new media - cnn, fox, msnbc, bend over backwards to keep touting how Bush is concerned. The Fema guy puts his hand on his chest and talks about how concerned he is.
But where is someone doing anything. The COast Guard appears to be doing an incredible job of rescuing people from St Bernards parish rooftops.
OTher than that, people are grandstanding, politiking, protecting Bush, while New Orleans drowns
August 30th, 2005 at 4:41 pmMSNBC reporting that President BUsh is asking people to call the Red Cross and give money and call an 800 number to vollunteer.
Meanwhile, New Orleans sinks
I’m ashamed of the US government now.
August 30th, 2005 at 4:44 pmComplete failure to respond to reality.
Billions stolen in Iraq
ANd they’re paralyzed in New Orleans. ALl those good white men, and all those blond CNN, MSNBC, and FOX news reporters babblling on and on about mildew and casinos and is the money protected, and what’s the price of oil now, meanwhile New ORleans sinks.
Let me get this straight…
In 2001, Bush received a Report entitled “Bin Laden determined to strike in US”. In 2001, Bin Laden struck in the US.
In 2001, Bush received a report that “ranked the potential damage to New Orleans as among the three likeliest, most castastrophic disasters facing this country. The other two? A massive earthquake in San Francisco, and, almost prophetically, a terrorist attack on New York City.” In 2005, a Hurricane hit New Orleans and has done a lot to destroy it.
Either the FEMA report is the most damaging one (I’ll avoid San Francisco now thank you) or there are other reports that Bush received in 2001 that he has done nothing about that are going to scare the hell out of me when I find out what was said, and what happened.
Z.
August 30th, 2005 at 4:45 pmA friend of mine is a FEMA manager, and although we have argued heatedly about his conservative political views(and he is relatively moderate), i have a deep and profound respect for him and his associates in FEMA. There are numerous issues that happen in floods that make it very dangerous to move around in those areas. If you have looked at some of the helicopter shots today you will seek surfaces of water and where water has been that represent oil, gas, and other lighter than water fluids. These are toxic to breathe, toxic to touch, toxic to living cells, and can ignite. Teams of rescue workers first job is to remove people from those areas. Then they go in for the animals(there are thousands trapped), then they go and evaluate the damage and plan for cleanup. FEMA already had arranged for groups and teams to move into the region prior to the incident, as locals from up here in the Northwest were leaving for Houston on Saturday.
A huge part of the problem now is that more than 30% of LA and MS national guard troops are in Iraq. When nearly one out of three rescue workers and all their support infrastructure are 7000 miles away it is hard to find the personnel to do the job that they were trained to do. I am however surprised that Bush isn’t visiting his good buddy Haley, for i am sure if this had been Florida he would have been in every photo op with Jed that could be arranged and packaged. I guess Rove feels there is no benefit from being seen in the region.
August 30th, 2005 at 4:47 pmYeah - there’s an oil rig that got loose and was pushed up river to where it’s lodged under a bridge.
Other rigs are floating about. Some are secure. ANd New Orleans handles about 40% of oil refining and importation.
So much for homeland security.
But hey - BushCo gets rich as do the Saudis on higher gas prices.
I heard CITGO was offering gas at reduced prices to hospitals, but Pat Robertson wants to off him.
August 30th, 2005 at 4:49 pmI can’t avoid SF, nor would I want to. I work right across the bay in Oakland.
2 down, 1 to go. Guess I should check to make sure my insurance is paid up….
August 30th, 2005 at 4:55 pmThe utter failure of white men who are in control of govt, fema, army corps of engineers, to handle this situation. I only point out the racial aspect because I’m white and I’m sick to death of white men and their enabling women driving this country into the ground because they can’t deal with reality. They want to live in a fairy tale land of jesus, SUVs, Iraq war, tax cuts for the rich, the rapture, prayin g to God instead of doing something …
Meanwhile… reality intrudes and people are dying in New Orleans from a lack of action and intelligence
August 30th, 2005 at 5:02 pmCORONADO, Calif., Aug. 30 — President Bush decided today to cut short his month-long vacation and return to Washington to oversee the federal government’s response to Hurricane Katrina, which cut a swath of devastation across the Gulf Coast states, killing dozens of people and leaving tens of thousands dislocated or without power.
Just stop bashing the man folks, its just not getting you anywhere. Besides, you really need to keep up on current events.
August 30th, 2005 at 5:03 pmRed
August 30th, 2005 at 5:05 pmShut up. I’ll bash all i want cause i pay the taxes and that ahole in the white house is an incompetent fool
But Red, when we brought up his chronic vacation-going before, Bush insisted he could do anything from his ranch that he could do in D.C. It’s not a vacation, he insisted. It’s amazing what you could do with faxes. He works better away from D.C.
Well now that was all horse sh** wasn’t it?
August 30th, 2005 at 5:07 pmRed
August 30th, 2005 at 5:09 pmin fact i think i’ll bash some more.
Bush was awol from the air national guard.
Bush was arrested for drug possession while awol from the air national guard.
Bush’s granddaddy Prescott was a nazi supporter - gave money to Hitler ss in the 1930s to bolster hitler’s political strength
Bush used imminent domain to seize property of legal landowners for his baseball team in Dallas, which he didn’t even have the money to invest in, it was all given to him
Harken oil - Bush was on the board of directors, but he didn’t understand what was going on, but somehow he knew to sell his shares, which were purchased for him by Saudi royal family business partners, just before Harken oil went out of business.
His brother Neil did the same thing in Denver with Silverado savings. Didn’t understan d how to read a balance sheet he said, but he was on the board of directors. Too bad the bank failed after giving unsecured loans to Bush family politicos.
August 30th, 2005 at 5:11 pmBush Canceling Vacation to Focus on Katrina
It’s looking like hundreds of people dead from Hurricane Katrina, so Bush is taking the unprecedented step of leaving vacation early to handle the crisis. No word on if Cindy Sheehan & he will be teaming up to help with the sandbags.
August 30th, 2005 at 5:13 pmHandle the crisis?
August 30th, 2005 at 5:14 pmBush isn’t handling the crisis. Maybe he’s handling his manhood, or lack thereof. But all he’s doing is flyhing to DC and hiding in the WH behind his lover in chief, Karl Rove
It’s entirely possible that Bush was still trying to finish that book about the goat when Katrina hit, and that delayed him. It’s understandable.
August 30th, 2005 at 5:16 pmThe bottom line for the Bush gang is: “I got mine, Screw you!”….remember he said…”Not all poor people are criminals”….does that mean just most of them???
August 30th, 2005 at 5:20 pmhttp://www.veteransforpeace.org/impeachment/petition2.htm
Jack Cafferty (CNN) who was a NY local reporter 30 years ago, just asked Wolf Blitzer, “where’s President BUsh, is he still on vacation.” Wolf said Bush was ending his vacation. And Jack said “That would be a good idea.”
Second moment of reality to pierce the thick fog of media
The first moment was the interview with the mayor of New Orleans. I watched it on the internet. The major media didn’t carry it. He laid it out honestly and soberly. There aren’t many like him around.
The media fools babble on about things they don’t understand, waving pompoms for Bush, covering over the obvious failure of response.
August 30th, 2005 at 5:22 pmThe fact that he is taking a month long vaction in the first place tends to piss people off a little. By the way the article quoted by Red is a little misleading he is not returning to DC until tomorrow (wednesday). The hurricane wreaked havoc yesterday, the Gulf Coast is under water today, but tomorrow is the soonest he can get back to DC. NICE!
August 30th, 2005 at 5:24 pmOf all the petty, sophomoric snipes. I’m surprised you didn’t fault the President for avoiding the Gulfport area, too (that’s Gulfport, Mississippi, in case you don’t have a map of the area).
Of course, you fail to mention that President Bush declared a national disaster BEFORE Katrina even struck - possibly the first such declaration ever to precede the disaster to which it referred. This had the effect of getting the FEMA apparatus moving that much sooner to aid the storm victims.
By now I feel really guilty. The weather outside is beautiful, and I’m not suffering enough to satisfy Nico.
By the way, Nico, when was your last trip to the Crescent City?
August 30th, 2005 at 5:29 pmYeah - and what good did that do - declaring a national disaster, without committing any assets -except try to save his political ass
August 30th, 2005 at 5:31 pmBush Flip-Flops on Vacationing During Disaster
AP: President Bush will cut short his vacation to return to Washington on Wednesday, two days earlier than planned, to help monitor federal efforts to assist victims of Hurricane Katrina, the White House said Tuesday. ”We have got a lot of work to d…
August 30th, 2005 at 5:31 pmFema apparatus moving? where did they move to? cause it seems to me that there are 20,000+ people stranded in the superdome without bathrooms, air, water - but as long as Bush covered himself that’s all that matters.
August 30th, 2005 at 5:32 pmAnd Blue State Red
August 30th, 2005 at 5:33 pmWhen you say petty sophomoric, you must be describing the Prez
Hey blue state red
August 30th, 2005 at 5:34 pmNext you’re going to say that the people in the SuperDome have themselves to blame for the debacle they face - blame it on the victim - but NEVER blame it on der fuehrer Bush
Blue State Red: Bush needs to ACT Presidential. It’s what President’s do during a disaster. You cancel all the fluff events - you don’t get pictured with a CAKE, you don’t get pictued with a GUITAR, you put on the grim “we’ll get through this” act. Being President is 50% facade - be the Facade Bush!
August 30th, 2005 at 5:37 pmMSNBC is reporting on a baptist preacher
Oh I’m so glad to see that a Baptist faith ministry has sent 100 people to somewhere in La. and they are holding a faith circle, holding hands, and people are applauding them.
I always feel secure when Baptists display their faith and people applaud, even whwen it’s far far away from the disaster area.
August 30th, 2005 at 5:39 pmACT Presidential?
August 30th, 2005 at 5:40 pmBush needs to act like a human being. But I don’t think he can. He doesn’t know how any more. His mother Bar and his terrific father took care of that.
Our compassionate conservatism advovate disgusting. He is a coward. He is a liar. He is phony. He is a bully. He is the worst president in history. I know what makes him cry — his guilt occasionally overcomes him. I can’t believe he is my president, I am so embarrassed.
August 30th, 2005 at 5:43 pmMy bad — advocate.
August 30th, 2005 at 5:44 pmToo bad we can’t airlift Bush into the middle of the SuperDome and have the 20,000 there descend on him. He could raise his hands up in a Jesus like position.
August 30th, 2005 at 5:45 pmSo, they’re clearing out the evacuation centers. Where are these people supposed to be going? Maybe they can set up camp at the Crawford ranch, seems it’s mostly vacant and the brush is cleared.
Man, I’m glad I cleared out of Louisiana 20 years ago — after three hurricanes (little ones)in one summer. The ground is squishy on a normal day. They’re going to have that water for a LONG time. I preferred the quakes in California! Not that I’m there anymore either. Sigh…
August 30th, 2005 at 5:50 pmSome images to accompany that last comment
Jesus inside the ThunderDome. The crowds tearing at him, desparate for water, air, life.
Bush lifting his eyes beatifically trying to mouthe something. But he can’t remember anything.
His mind goes blank.
All he can think of is why when he turned the bike handles left the wheels slipped on that log and lance armstrong passed him by.
August 30th, 2005 at 5:52 pmThey are not clearing out the rescue centers.
August 30th, 2005 at 5:52 pm#4 - it’s priceless.
August 30th, 2005 at 5:52 pmA month ago, he could do anything and everything from Crawford. Today he has to get to DC to oversee the disaster. D’ya think he’s getting too much criticism - like Nero. And like Nero he is a feckless, foolish flunky.
bush doesn’t give a rats azz about anyone sans his buddies and that includes bin laden. I bet he is making sure those oil rigs are getting first rate attention.
August 30th, 2005 at 5:55 pmKeep ‘em coming cmw — I’m with you!
August 30th, 2005 at 5:58 pmfor all the numbnutz on this blog
they are NOT clearing out the rescue centers
The brillian gov of LA has said they should clear out the rescue centers
BUT AS DARK APPROACHES AND THE WATERS RISE AROUND THE SUPERDOME, NO ONE IS BEING EVACUATED
August 30th, 2005 at 5:59 pmHere a flip flop . Bush leave for 5 week vacation
Then Cindy Sheean shows up at his door.
bush starts running like all addicts do when they are caught.
W.H. mr bush isn’t on vacation we’re remodeling the West Wing. He can do the same amount of work in Crawford as D.C.
Katrina hits our people in the South .bush ’s W.H. states “president bush is canceling his vacation.
August 30th, 2005 at 6:00 pmBobby
August 30th, 2005 at 6:01 pmThe stupidity of the authorities and BUsh is only superceded by their arrogance and insulation. THe mayor of New Orleans excepted.
#46 - Thanks for your illuminating comment.
August 30th, 2005 at 6:02 pmAww, don’t be so hard on Bushie — he is cutting his golfing/fishing/biking vacation short by two whole days — after all, this isn’t the first time — recall that he went at midnight not long ago to sign the Terri Schiavo executive order.
August 30th, 2005 at 6:04 pmCNN just reported that looting is widespread in New Orleans. Widespread? That’s absurd. Most streets are impassible. Earlier today there was looting on Canal street. But widespread?
See when white women try to bolster their ignorant white men, they will say anything.
August 30th, 2005 at 6:05 pm(I am white so don’t bother to attack me for racist remarks. I’m just sick of the major media talking heads being white bobbing heads who say moronic things to protect their bosses asses and the Pres)
Quick, get the film crews organized! You can bet that in the next few days Bush will be down there passing out blankets and water and getting in the way like he did in Florida just before the election. Only a real asshole would use a disaster like this to raise his crummy poll numbers.
August 30th, 2005 at 6:13 pmI just wish Kerry was in Washington now, so none of this evil weather would have ever happened. He would have built a giant wall to keep all the floods at bay in New Orleans and Biloxi and Mobile, and he would have taxed all the rich bastards who were able to escape to pay for that blessed wall.
Damn you, George W. Bush!
August 30th, 2005 at 6:14 pmWhat I like is the contra flow of terms being parried about by msm
“There were mandatory evacuation orders” but “some couldn’t comply”
Well - if there’s mandatory evacuation doesn’t that mean mandatory - except there was no police force of military to enforce the mandatory evacs, cause they are gone to Iraq, or the money has gone to rich tax cuts.
So the authorities declared mandatory evacuations but left helpless people to fend for themselves.
There was NO mandatoryh evacuation. Mandatory means you are evacuated out. That did NOT happen.
But the scene is being set slowly, surreptiiously by msm, to blame the victims, and protect Bush’ asses
August 30th, 2005 at 6:18 pmI just want the number of National Guard Troops deployed for Hurricane Andrew when that disaster happened. And I’d like to compare the numbers. Looting in Baghdad and total chaos ensued. Will the same thing happen because not enough troops committed to maintain control and help rehab? Just wondering. Bush is such a coward and a fool.
August 30th, 2005 at 6:20 pmCould a Russian spy who was elected as our President do a job that was as bad as bush is doing? Nobody could have done as awful a job as george w….no one. Even people with the worst of motives…..like the boy george.
Yeah Eric
August 30th, 2005 at 6:20 pmTOo bad we still don’t have slaves who could have built those walls, oh except we do, what are the statistics now for the poor in America?
Spare the intelligent your bilious stupidities
Oh yeah, CNN, MSNBC, and FOX fell over themselves to display national guard activated statistics. Meaningless numbers meant to assuage the stupid.
August 30th, 2005 at 6:22 pmThere’s a suit on CNN now - a white suit - talking about “speaking to opportunities” and “offices in Florida loooking at those opportunites”
Oh the calming effect of white males in red power ties and suits saying absolutely nothing
August 30th, 2005 at 6:24 pmBrian Williams - NBC News “..we’ll take you tonight and show you some of the depths of humanity…”
presumably he means the looting.
OF course he’s not referring to Bush’s behavior. No
Instead we’ll see black people pushing shopping carts on Canal street
The depths of human behavior
Of course the slaughter of innocents in Iraq and the stranding of thousands in New Orleans isn’t the depths. It’s the height of human behavior
Screw Brian Williams
August 30th, 2005 at 6:31 pmWow…I’ve been following the comments here for a little while and even posted a couple of my own. While I agree Bush is an idiot Eric (#52) has a point that seems to have been missed. Granted Bush’s choice for photo ops today were less than stellar choices. However, it’s not like he could have prevented the hurricane. I think that’s Eric was hinting at….it’s called perspective.
CMW - I was with you in the beginning…then after comment #5 you veered off into some crazy territory and now it just seems like ranting. Maybe it’s time to take a break. Step away from the computer, get some air, deep breaths…something or you’re going to blow a gasket.
August 30th, 2005 at 6:39 pm#59
You think i’m crazy! You are crazy. You step away from reality, cause you can’t take it.
The reality is the Prez left New Orleans high and dry. There’d been warnings for days about 20 ft flood. Nothing done. Mandatory evac. That was a fake. Now blame the victims.
August 30th, 2005 at 6:43 pmNew Orleans. The next Baghdad. No water, no electricity, no sewage. But they’re mostly Black Folk so nobody cares. Patrol Canal street with semi-automatics to protect the goods. Forget that 20000 have no water or bathrooms in the SuperDome. Doesn’t matter. Just protect the goods that will be under water soon. Shoot to kill if you have to to protect the goods from the poor. Don’t you just luv white america. (I’m white by the way)
August 30th, 2005 at 6:51 pmAnd Moveler
August 30th, 2005 at 6:58 pmI’ve been around too long, seen too much to blow a gasket. Maybe you need to watch, listen, and learn instead of trying to weigh who’s the good guy and who’s the gad guy too soon. You don’t want to come in on the wrong side now do you? Someday you’ll be able to think for yourself, if you’re lucky.
Two days before the hurricane was to hit the Gulf coast, the President sat,was he watching the news? They were predicting a very bad situation, and he sat and sat. Now that the that part of the country is in shambles he decideds to go to the White house, to do what for the poor and homeless , too late. To rebuild on a floodplain is a bad plan as was his war in Iraq.
August 30th, 2005 at 7:03 pmI would love to know what Clinton was up to on the night that a major hurricane struck during his watch. Probably getting a royal BJ in the Oval Office.
August 30th, 2005 at 7:06 pmMichael that is the dumbest thing I’ve heard in a long long time.
August 30th, 2005 at 7:09 pmMichael Derravo
August 30th, 2005 at 7:12 pmMaybe you were giving him that bj - go screw yourself while you’re at it.
They need to do something to evacuate the people from the superdome. They need to do something. They don’t know how to do anything apparently. Except the coast guard. Everyone else seems to only be able to stand aroudn talking, and talking, and talking. All those blond heads with lots of makeup on msn talking and talking and talking about the depths of humanity as poor people struggle to survive.
August 30th, 2005 at 7:14 pmHey Michael Devarro
August 30th, 2005 at 7:17 pmI understand you do windows.
This is the type of thing that we used to have plenty of national guard to respond to. Now they are in iraq fighting the evildoers…
August 30th, 2005 at 7:18 pmthat’s right nuterrolhippy
and now they just stand around muttering about the depths of humanity looting to get some food
I wish they could put bush et al inside the superdome and make them take a shit in an overflowing toilet. And when they started vomiting, stick their head in the toilet, ala abu graib.
A guy jumped from the second tier of the superdome this afternoon - that’s inside the superdome. He was playing a game of dominos and calmly got up from the table and told the people below him to move out of the way, and he jumped to his death.
August 30th, 2005 at 7:22 pmCome on Michael Devarro
August 30th, 2005 at 7:29 pmDon’t you have something witty and anti-clinton to say about sticking bush’s head in an overflowing toilet in the superdome. I’d like to stick clinton’s head in there too.
Re: 40 by CMW
August 30th, 2005 at 7:42 pmW’s mind can’t go blank. A done thing is a done thing.
On a different note, everyone should get out their checkbooks (myself included) and start sending money to the Red Cross. They recently announced that they are going to be evacuating the entire city - even those who couldn’t leave, like those in the Superdome. I lived in the city for three years; it’s unfathomable that it’s been leveled by this hurricane.
August 30th, 2005 at 7:45 pmYou can go to earthside.com to see what W did today. God help us all.
August 30th, 2005 at 7:48 pmRe: Scott Cunningham
August 30th, 2005 at 7:51 pmI sent my donation via VISA - link to their site is http://www.redcross.org/. They seem to get an extra hack via that route and it’s a bit quicker.
Chris Matthews Hardball - he’s interviewing someone from govt? and he’s asking him how they will evacuate 20000 from superdome. the male voice waffles and says they will evaluate needs in and around dome. So they are pretending to be evacuating the superdome, when they are really just evacuating people from homes and bringing them to the superdome.
August 30th, 2005 at 7:52 pmit’s an amazing job of bait and switch going on with people’s lives, health and sanity.
Im sorry but this is not how leader should act when there are dead bodies in canals in New Orleans. God help us all.
August 30th, 2005 at 7:52 pmSimmer down CMW I’m on your side, you just don’t realize it, your too busy personally attacking everyone. You seriously don’t find anything wrong with comment #?? I was going to cite the comment in which you referred to Bush doing something while looking at a goat but that comment seems to have been removed.
All I’m saying is that Bush is certainly and with out a doubt to blame for many many things just not every single thing. Don’t forget I was with ya and agree with most of what your saying here…I’m on your side remember. However, when rational discussion turns into personal attacks you loose your credibility.
August 30th, 2005 at 7:53 pmIf you give to red cross, do you know where it’s going? i don’t trust anyone any more. Why wasn’t the red cross in the superdome? where is the red cross located?
August 30th, 2005 at 7:53 pmmoveler
you are like the apologists for vietnam and the holocaust. I’m not attacking anyone except Bush and maybe you for being so “nice” and “good” and “correct”
Get lost. In that one I said maybe Bush was masterbating.
August 30th, 2005 at 7:55 pmMaybe they’ll remove me entirely. TIll them I’ll keep speaking the truth, cause the bs you want to hear is too sickening at this point. Get real or get lost.
I’ll have you know that George successfully avoided ALL water hazards on the El Pueblo Mirage golf course yesterday.
August 30th, 2005 at 7:56 pmand mooveler
August 30th, 2005 at 7:58 pmyou’re the one making personal attacks - with your “calm down”
go ahead, put me down, try to silence me, you won’t succeed
the truth is the msm is white controlled bs, with lots of heavily made up women defending ignoramus men, while people of color drown in New Orleans and die in Iraq. This country is sickening.
And if you want a “nice” calm discussion - too bad - i won’t comply - the time for “niceness” is over
Re: 76 by CMW -You can state where it goes to, I said “Hurricane Katrina relief”.
August 30th, 2005 at 7:59 pmIn fact moveler
August 30th, 2005 at 8:01 pmnow that i think of it, the quote of mine you say they deleted was about Bush masturbating to the book about the goat. I wonder why they would delete a comment about Bush masturbating. Maybe it’s against the law to say that. I don’t know but one would think that saying Bush masturbated would be a perfectly acceptable thing to say, but maybe saying the President of the United States masturbated is a really “bad” thing to do. What do you think? Or maybe it’s only bad to say that if you say he masturbated while watching films of people drowning. I don’t know. I’m asking you. SInce you seem to be an arbiter of good taste.
And I rest my case…Thanks CMW for proving my point.
August 30th, 2005 at 8:10 pmI sure hope this doesn’t become political….
White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the president will chair a meeting Wednesday of a White House task force set up to coordinate the federal response and relief effort.
“We have a lot of work to do,” the president said of the storm FEMA director Michael Brown has termed catastrophic.
“This hurricane has caused devastation over a wide area,” Brown said.
Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott (news, bio, voting record) urged the president to visit the damaged region.
“Mr. President, the people of Mississippi are flat on their backs. They’re going to need your help,” Lott said in a call to Bush. “I urge you to come to Mississippi. Your visit would be very good for the morale of Mississippians who are hurting right now.”
You know, his immediate reaction to this sudden and unannounded storm is what leaders are all about. No sir, this prez isn’t letting this tragedy go without working it for all it’s worth. “Iraq, hell, we got bigger problems in the ol’ US o’ A!”
August 30th, 2005 at 8:11 pmHoly crap. They cannot fix the break in the levee at 17th street and Canal. For those who haven’t been following, the levee has a 200 foot breach in it, and Lake Pontachartrain is pouring into the city. If they cannot fix the leak, then the water level inside New Orleans will not stop rising until it is level with the Lake. Here is the latest from Mayor Ray Nagin:
“Mayor Ray Nagin has announced that the attempt to plug a breach in the
17th Street canal at the Hammond Highway bridge has failed and the
rising water is about to overwhelm the pumps on that canal.
The result is that water will begin rising rapidly again, and could
reach as high as 3 feet above sea level. In New Orleans and Jefferson
Parish, that means floodwaters could rise as high as 15 feet in the next
few hours. Nagin urged residents to try to find higher ground as soon as possible.”
This will not stop.
August 30th, 2005 at 8:14 pmWith all of his vacationing, he’ll have to go back to work to get some much needed rest.
August 30th, 2005 at 8:16 pmRe: My entry 73
August 30th, 2005 at 8:18 pmAny credit card will do. My appologies to American Express, MC and Discovery.
The French Quarter is now flooding. See
“French Quarter flooding
August 30th, 2005 at 8:24 pmWe have received reports from NOLA.com readers that the French Quarter is flooding. One reader report came from the corner of Bourbon Street and Royal Street. FoxNews is also reporting now that flood waters have entered the historic area of New Orleans, which was spared much of the initial flooding from Hurricane Katrina.”
“the truth is the msm is white controlled bs, with lots of heavily made up women defending ignoramus men, while people of color drown in New Orleans and die in Iraq. This country is sickening.”
Hey, Nico - the idea that this site can pass itself off as a forum for serious “progressive” debate is completely destroyed by people like cmw. C’mon, do your job and ditch this racist sexist maniac. He/she is even attacking the libs here.
August 30th, 2005 at 8:31 pmRe: Scott Cunningham -
August 30th, 2005 at 8:32 pmThe French Quarter is now flooding.
One word: sheet! Grams would not let me say the obvious word.
The (W) stands for three things; 1)Worst President Ever , 2)War criminal , 3)Worthless piece of excrement (had to refrain myself here).I was born in the Crescent City and still live in La.,and it breaks my heart to see the devastation caused by Katrina. What a testament to global warming. Now King George wants to show some compassion ? Stay away from Louisiana,W. No one buys into your B.S. down here anymore.
August 30th, 2005 at 8:50 pmRe: 90 by C
August 30th, 2005 at 9:42 pmNo the correct term is lemmings.
Re: 91 by me,
August 30th, 2005 at 9:51 pmTake that back, the first sheep to go over the cliff, dies - the last survives - cushioned by the bodies of the leaders. I only wish war progressed in a simular fashion.
comment 91: I suspect that the conservative “trolls” you abhor so much are busy following the tragedy of New Orleans, rather than seeing it as merely a means to one’s own political ends, such as is all you seem capable of. You piece of crap! Can’t you just put the political pandering aside for a day, and just focus on the actual city, rather than using it for your own ideological posturing?!
August 30th, 2005 at 10:04 pmI can’t wait for the next natural disaster so prices on everything can increase again. Bring it on. America fiddles with a losing war while all 50 states become one huge shithole.
It don’t get no better than this.
Bush should stay on vacation all year long, I would feel more secure.
August 30th, 2005 at 10:06 pmUnbelieveable, the trolls here and on other message boards, who will sell their very souls to defend Bush playing golf, and eating cake, and learning how to play guitar with a country musician, INSTEAD of acting like an adult, and giving support to the hurricane victims. I guess Bush’s biggest supporters are as non-compassionate/sociopathic as Bush, and yet, I can’t quite figure out what on earth Bush has done for these people that he hasn’t done for the remaining MAJORITY of the country who think Bush is a miserable failure. It’s like believing the Bible, I just can’t wrap my mind around it.
August 30th, 2005 at 10:10 pmI heard through a friend of a friend that even some secret service agents stationed at Crawford were getting sick of the President’s 5-week vacation. Apparently, he’s hardly working at all — he’s spending all his time cutting brush and burning leaves.
August 30th, 2005 at 10:21 pmScott Cunningham - Actually, Bush was ignoring LA & MI, sent Scott McClellen and Scott’s bro. to look after it. But Ron is right, W should take a 40 month impeachment vacation with Dick. It would certainly be the best course for the nation.
August 30th, 2005 at 10:24 pmDo you think the people of Louisiana would rather have their Natioanl Guard to assit with rescues and security right now?
Well, take a guess where they are right now? You got it!
According to Defense Department documents that show “a cumulative roster of all National Guard and Reserve personnel, who are currently mobilized,†a total of 4,109 Louisiana Reserve and Guard troops are currently serving in Iraq.
I’m sure their families and the people in New Orleans would give anything to have them home right now.
Nice job - “Shrub”!
August 30th, 2005 at 10:42 pmMaybe if they keep looking another 100 years they might find some WMDs- all the while, New ORleans drowns!
I can’t beleive what I am reading. This is all Bush’s fault. I didn’t know our President had god-like powers. While you liberals sit in your own pink and purple world, passing judgement. You fail to see that your heros,like Moore and Sheen and Franken have made no overtures to the hurricane victims. Martin Sheen went to Texas to meet with Cindy in a sick effort to trump the media coverage of the Hurricane back her. On the Air America Radio web sight the Hurricane is only mentioned twice. Who knows what Moore is doing. Probably making a silly movie trying to prove Bush paid off God and had Him send Katrina to ensure the Saudi’s made more oil money, buy interviewing the ghost of Elvis. You people make me sick. Next time I put my life on the line for this country, I want it know that I do it because of you. You should be happy you live in America. In almost any other country your freedom of speech would be taken away. If you don’t like America go some where else. WE AMERICANS WON’T MISS YOU!!!!!!!!
August 30th, 2005 at 10:42 pmBrandon, go on out there and join one of the branches of the US armed services. There is nothing stopping you. Stop blogging and start firing.
Let me know when you arrive in Iraq. get going, soldier.
Bush sits on his hands and really does do nothing. Now, go back to sleep.
August 30th, 2005 at 10:47 pmNO ONE is claiming Bush “caused” this tragedy.
We are all saying that instead of acting like a real President (i.e. a leader)- he was off on vacation, taking guitar lessons from country music stars, and giving canned speeches trying to resurrect his plummeting poll numbers. In other words, he was acting only in his own self-interest (yet again)rather than stepping up and getting some real assistance to these poor souls along the Gulf coast.
Plus, our Nation’s “first line of defense” in times of disaster like this is not available to assist in its full capacity since they are bogged down in an unjust, unjustifiable war of choice, half a world away.
BTW the Brandon…. “web sight”… nice!
August 30th, 2005 at 10:52 pmGood post Rick
August 30th, 2005 at 10:59 pmSorry Rick, I meant “Site” Thanks for correcting me. Why don’t you spell check everybody else. FEMA is all caps.
Ron I already have joined. I am a 12 year vet who has been to Iraq. I was stationed in Kuwait from Nov 2002-Mar 2003, when I repositioned to Iraq through Nov of 2003. Now I am a Military Instructor on a controled tour other wise I would have been back.
P.S. I am awake I have a job.
BTW…I will assume from the lack of response you feel the same way I do about the fake-liberal heros of our day.
August 30th, 2005 at 11:10 pmRe: 93 by scott cunningham
I sent $50 about 12 hours before you decided to open your check book and I am unemployed. As my bumber sticker says - Better a Bleeding Heart Than None at All.
August 30th, 2005 at 11:13 pmOh I get it, Mr. Bush should get a fleet of transport boats and lead a flotilla on a rescue mission to the superdome. You know I honestly pity you people who think that a president is responsible for everything. Once it is all over the president will likely take a helicopter tour of the devastation, he will meet with people, and he will speak encouraging words. The initial assessment is something that is historically done by the governor. The president released funds well in advance of the tragedy. It is sad that even a natural disaster must serve as a incitement of the president. Is there no end of your partisan banter?
August 30th, 2005 at 11:24 pmStaying the Course… (AWOL Again)
During the Vietnam War, George W. Bush was “absent withoutout official leave”, AWOL.
We’ve now seen his stubborn resolution and determination to “stay the course” in action one more time.
One time too many.
By failing to end his vacation earlier and take on the mantle of responsbility that is the role, responsibility, and mark of a true leader, George W. Bush was once again AWOL in a time of crisis.
Pass it on. Two words: “AWOL Again”
And while you’re at it, share this too:
The Battle for America
DailyKOS reports that George cut essential funds which may have helped mitigate the damages and tremendous losses. Do not ever forget that this mess may not have been this bad…and don’t let anyone else ever forget.
August 30th, 2005 at 11:29 pmIn these times of American hyper-partisanship, even the response to an act of God like hurricane Katrina is revealing.
For the full story, see:
“Hurricanes, Divine Retribution and the Right.”
August 30th, 2005 at 11:31 pm[…] • Via AmericaBlog, from Think Progress, a view of what Bush saw while he vacationed today vs. what actually happened. […]
August 30th, 2005 at 11:32 pmRE: 3 by cmw
The SuperDome is in LA not Mississippi. The govenor of Mississippi has no authority to evac the SuperDome refugees. That would be the govenor of Louisiana who is incapable of leading. P.S. She’s a Democrat. Oops, get your facts straight before you lie for politic’s sake
August 30th, 2005 at 11:32 pm“He will speak encouraging words.” Wow. How Presidential, L. Albert. Perhaps he will put on a pair of duck-boots while he’s at it.
August 30th, 2005 at 11:33 pmRe: 106 by L. Albert Mathewson
August 30th, 2005 at 11:34 pmWoud be nice if he showed up in the area, but that would detract from rescue efforts as they keep a 300 mile radius air bubble around his presence. I’ve sat on the ground at many an airport while AF-1 shuffled through. What is really needed are National Guard troops to stem the looting and rescue people. Unfortunatly they and their equipment are in Iraq because somebody tried to shoot his daddy.
“Nero fiddled while Rome burned. George rode his bicycle. It was the best he could do.”
It’s a quote from a writer’s work-in-progress.
Looks like George was also playing a guitar. I wonder if he knows “Dueling Banjos”…?
August 30th, 2005 at 11:35 pmRE: 112 by Walt the Man
That “300 mile radius” is a bit off, but it served every president from Harry S. Truman on. Can’t blame Bush for that. Second, I won’t argue about the NG in Iraq, but their equipment is owned by the state. When the Guard Deploys, they use the equipment already staged it country. The equipment you are talking about is already in the places hit by the storm.
August 30th, 2005 at 11:50 pmI have an idea. Why don’t you shut off your computer and go offer yourselves for clean up duty.
BTW…Go on, slam Bush again about his vacation, I guess you are right, I mean he could have been in the Oval Office taking funds away from our intelligence agencies with an intern under the desk, and smoking a cigar.
interns under desk doesn’t get thousands killed or deplete treasurys
August 30th, 2005 at 11:55 pmHey L. Albert Mathewson:
Your pity is wasted here. Bush is up to his eyeballs in this scenario. He stood his ground. He got his war. He invited all his friends. They all stood and clapped and racked in their chips. There is a nice fat part for George W. Bush to play in this disaster. I don’t think Homeland Security has done shit. New Orleans is taking on aspects of Baghdad. 300 BILLION on Bush’s War of Choice L. Albert. Phooey on your pity. It’s dark and damned dangerous in The Big Muddy tonight. Save your pity for the folks dealing with that.
Courtesy of Daily Kos:
It appears that the money has been moved in the president’s budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that’s the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can’t be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us.
— Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, Louisiana; New Orleans Times-Picayune, June 8, 2004
When flooding from a massive rainstorm in May 1995 killed six people, Congress authorized the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, or SELA.
Over the next 10 years, the Army Corps of Engineers, tasked with carrying out SELA, spent $430 million on shoring up levees and building pumping stations, with $50 million in local aid. But at least $250 million in crucial projects remained…
Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security — coming at the same time as federal tax cuts — was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars.
You think New Orleans was not shouting loud and often enough about this problem? It gets worse:
There was, at the same time, a growing recognition that more research was needed to see what New Orleans must do to protect itself from a Category 4 or 5 hurricane. But once again, the money was not there. As the Times-Picayune reported last Sept. 22:
That second study would take about four years to complete and would cost about $4 million, said Army Corps of Engineers project manager Al Naomi. About $300,000 in federal money was proposed for the 2005 fiscal-year budget, and the state had agreed to match that amount.
But the cost of the Iraq war forced the Bush administration to order the New Orleans district office not to begin any new studies, and the 2005 budget no longer includes the needed money, he said.
The Senate was seeking to restore some of the SELA funding cuts for 2006. But now it’s too late. One project that a contractor had been racing to finish this summer was a bridge and levee job right at the 17th Street Canal, site of the main breach.
August 30th, 2005 at 11:56 pmNo nutterolhippy it doesn’t but cutting funding to intelligence agencies does. Funny how you skipped that part of my comment. Proving once again you liberals need to take off your “blue” blockers.
August 31st, 2005 at 12:09 amso i guess “lack of funds” is how they knew about all those wmd’s being moved from location to location in iraq?
August 31st, 2005 at 12:21 amIf the stories coming out of the “Big Easy†turns out to be true and I have no doubt that it’s is true - then “w†the wonder boy and prick, along with his entire staff and administration has got to be impeached in mass and on the spot - their is no other way to put it.
If this prick can defer needed funds from a program that was designed to protect the American people - just to support the bush family’s little war which was designed to protect their personal oil interests - then just what other moneys has bush and company taken from “peter†to pay “paul�
How safe are we as a whole?
What other “bets†have the wonder boy and his bud’s made at the future expense of the American people?
These are question that going to be ask loud and often in the days to come.
As far as I’m concerned the many people who will be found dead in the day and weeks ahead are nothing less than fatalities of the Iraq war and should be listed as such - which will most likely will put the fatalities numbers for the Iraq war closer to 3000 to 5000 American men and women!
Has the Republicans had enough of their beloved “w†yet?
Or in their minds is this just another “liberal†trick to make “w the prick†again look bad - believe me “liberals†don’t have to do a dame thing - ‘w the prick†has that will in hand and needs no additional help - his daddy must be really proud of his boy - the ass is so over his head - that it would be funny if their wasn’t that so many folks are getting killed!
Finally I never though that I would be so mad at the president of this country and that he the president would have done all that “w†has done to this county - that I would find no words - save a obscenity - to express my loss of respect for the man, his administration and the office under him - he has done the office and this county a grave injustice and should be impeached!
If the Republicans (the party in power) haven’t gotten it yet - then they too should face the people and the whole lot of them should be forced from office or better impeached them all!
I leave you with these words…
To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.
- Theodore Roosevelt
When the people fear their government, there is
August 31st, 2005 at 12:24 amtyranny; when the government fears the people, there
is liberty
-Thomas Jefferson
{Proving once again you liberals need to take off your “blue†blockers.}
ok…we’ll take off our “blueblockers” if you all will get off CODE RED…
August 31st, 2005 at 12:27 am“they” being two superpowers went off the intel they were given. Was it wrong? Yes. Why was it wrong and who is to blame is left up in the air. You blame Bush because he was President when it happened. I blame Clinton, because he cut the funding that could have provided better intel. Truth is you and I will never know the truth because everybody on both sides is hiding it or creating their own version of it. Fact remains if someone wants to hit us they will. Remember Clinton had his own non-UN sanctioned war, and we all remember what he did during Vietnam, went to Moscow and smoked dope without inhaling. As a Hippie isn’t that a waist of weed?
August 31st, 2005 at 12:32 amOur Nation is facing a crisis like no other crisis I have seen in my life time. Including 9-11.
Absolutely the media claimed KATRINA was not a major storm. The media again lied as FLORIDA and TEXAS was safe from KATRINA.
Lousiana and Mississipi are disposable to this administration. No, Bushie cannot control the weather but it sure does reek that the media downplayed this storm.
Of course, as expected the chickenhawks are blaming the victims. The chickenhawks need to leave the country immediately. We the non-chickenhawks look past the fact that these devastated states supporteds Bushie.
Global warming, nah, no such thing.
August 31st, 2005 at 12:36 amat least we know where clinton was in ‘68…we don’t seem to be able to find gdub and i don’t think it’s because of lack of funding
August 31st, 2005 at 12:37 amYou Bushie supporters are the most disgusting species known to man. You make me sick.
August 31st, 2005 at 12:39 amsusan..susan…breathe….deep….relax…
August 31st, 2005 at 12:41 amBreathing is something that Bushie would like to eliminate from our society nutterolhippy. Either be a part of the solution or leave the country is my motto.
votetoimpeach.org
August 31st, 2005 at 12:47 amThat piece of crap Barbara had and called a baby better just stay the hell out of New Orleans.
It’s a Dem. stronghold and the Secret Service wouldn’t be able to protect his sorry ass.
They’d take him down to the water and drown him in the filth, which would be fitting.
I think the LA officials are in utter shock, as are we all, looking at the miles and miles and miles of devastation. It’s brain overload and we here in LA are all suffering from it right now.
My daughter and son in law live and work in the French Quarter and are in SW LA safe with us. We are all having a hard time coping with the magnitude of this.
But one thing is certain, I DETEST Barbara’s piece of crap and everyting he stands for!
August 31st, 2005 at 12:50 amRE: 53 by cmw
“Manditory Evacuations” are not the same as “Manditory Drug Testing” No level of American government has the right to phyisically remove someone from their homes during times of Natural Disasters, no matter how much they think they should. If you go to tell someone their home won’t be safe when the storm hits and they tell you to go away, What do you next. Force them, no you note it and pray they survive so you can go get them later. On the other hand, your employer has every right to order a drug test (and in your case probably should)as grounds for hiring.
August 31st, 2005 at 12:54 amEverybody who stayed had the choice to stay in their home or go to a shelter. New Orleans, and Louisiana did all they could before the storm to save lives, and they continue to strive to save people. Why waist our time with this tyraid. Blame Bush if it makes you sleep better. But what have you done to comfort someone.
i’m not sure how to be a part of the solution…with fixed elections…corporate control..power mongering..greedy deceptions and such…what is a patriot to do?
August 31st, 2005 at 12:54 amRe: 114 by Samuri Penguin
I landed about 5 min. after Ford in NYC. Saw him pile into his limo on the tarmac - guess, I was in a Blackhawk - though it sure looked like a 727. Took off from Baltimore/Washington Friendly once and the pilot pointed out AF-1 to one side (Ike was on board). Boy those those eagle eyes! Can’t be sure about Truman, I was a little young then. Kennedy did not put a hold on Love field when he landed in Dallas and there was only about a twenty minute hold when Johnson took off - primarily out of respect - I was there.
August 31st, 2005 at 1:00 amwalt ..you must be older than me
August 31st, 2005 at 1:03 amand i remember when presidents were ask questions that they didn’t have the answers on paper in front of them before they were ask
August 31st, 2005 at 1:05 amTo nutterolhippy
August 31st, 2005 at 1:09 amMaybe - does 1941 ring a bell?
nutter, a patriot calls for the impeachment of Bushie. It’s that simple. He hates America (except Texas and Florida) and he needs to be out of office immediately.
I bet you and others here on this blog do not know that there is a law on the books that state that a President cannot be removed by election during a war. We will be at war in 08 for sure. This law (which I will find the link and post it) guarantees Bushie a third term if we are still in Iraq.
Impeachment is the only way out of this dictatorship. Look it up if you don’t believe me.
August 31st, 2005 at 1:11 am1941 huh..you are old..but i bet you remember where you were in the 60’s..
August 31st, 2005 at 1:13 amRe: Susan - 133
August 31st, 2005 at 1:15 amIsn” there an admendment that ovverrides this law?
susan..ther’s about as much chance of impeaching this guy as there is…oh..me getting to make out with angelina jolee…really what is a patriot to do?
August 31st, 2005 at 1:17 amTo nutterolhippy
Sure, I was doing logic design at a minor office machine company in upstate NY.
August 31st, 2005 at 1:22 amok….well we seem to know where everyone except gdud was..
August 31st, 2005 at 1:24 amSusan, I understand you are upset, but let us not get ahead of ourselves.
August 31st, 2005 at 1:31 amFirst the media in no way down played the size of this storm. For 5 days before it hit the media was saying it was going to hit as a Cat 5(that’s as big as they get) Experts laid out everything to expect. I live in Florida and we prayed just as hard as Louisiana to have this storm die and pass over all of us. Noone hid the catastrophic events of Katrina.
Second, The Constitution of the United States limits the time a person can be President. I guarantee Bush will only serve two terms. If he even tries to serve more you will have many who will draw the line (including me) Unless the Constitution is amended it can’t and won’t happen.
Next Walt-the-Man
I have provided protection for two Presidents and the closing of the airspace in recent history is due to increased air travel. More planes fly through Love Field now than in the 60’s. I remember doing airport duty for Clinton and the airport in Detroit was closed for three hours before he arrived and when he left. I know I drove the runway before he landed looking for IEDs. BTW…Truman was president when the Air Force seperated from the Arny and The 1st AF-1 was given to him.
To nutterolhippy,
August 31st, 2005 at 1:31 amRe: 136
Yo could try Susan - OOPS - Susan is my sister’s name.
Walt and Nutterolhippie,
August 31st, 2005 at 1:33 amI wasn’t around in the 60’s, but if I was I am sure I would know where I was.
Thanks for the fun everyone see ya
August 31st, 2005 at 1:34 amwalt..are you trying to fix me up with your sister?…does she look like angelina jolee?…it’s ok if she doesn’t cause i’m sure no brad pit..she didn’t vote for bush did she?..
August 31st, 2005 at 1:37 amTo nutterolhippy,
August 31st, 2005 at 1:45 amSorry, she’s married and she did not vote for Bush.
Old fart that I am I’m headed for the sack. I have an unmarried aunt who is only 98 years old. Can’t hear and can hardly see -the perfect spouse. Smart as a whip though.
nutter, if you don’t want to be a part of the solution and you are too weak to demand impeachment then you are part of the problem. Where the hell have you been? The impeachment movement is getting stronger than ever. September is packed with rally’s calling for impeachment. I guess you’ll tell me that Nixon resigned because he was tired. Not!
WalttheMan, I am having trouble accessing the law right now. I just heard about it today. I thought Bushies goal was to stack the Supreme Court to ammend the constitution to allow him a third term but Bushie is sneaky and he has an agenda for sure. I’m still looking for the link. Will provide when I find it.
August 31st, 2005 at 1:47 amCMW: You cannot generalize about people by race: For example, the Office for Civil Rights of the U.S. Department of Education has sold out white learning disabled public school students for years, and everyone I have dealt with in that office is BLACK. THe point: There are corrupt, unsatiably greedy, people of ALL races at ALL levels of government. The problem is the electoral system that lobbs corrupt people into government: fix that, you fix most national and local problems. Though I have to concede on the point of white-dominated newsreporting and white-dominated government: Though I have been fascinated by the glimpse into the serious problems of character in white people of privilege in high relief in this administration —all of these very trashy, overstuffed piggy whites —the minority lickspittles that serve them in government are no better, and just as evil.
August 31st, 2005 at 6:34 amPut differently, there are murderous, backstabbing, corrupt people of all races throughout our local, state and federal government agencies and offices, and if the learning curve does not go up faster and more radically, our country — its institutions and its people— will continue its retrograde cultural, political and economic descent toward what Europe was before the French Revolution and the drafting of the U.S. Constitution.
August 31st, 2005 at 6:42 amFrom “Seinfeld” It’s the summer of George, where George does what he wants, where he wants, when he wants. No time for natural disasters, though he is keeping an eye on the oil wells and refineries.
August 31st, 2005 at 8:43 amGreat post by #115 burro. Will not be reported in the MSM most likely. All true.
August 31st, 2005 at 9:00 am“I blame Clinton, because he cut the funding that could have provided better intel. ”
Samuri Penguin — how much “better intel” do you need than memos stating that Bin Laden determined to strike in the U.S. using airplanes??
Pull your head out of your ass and admit you are wrong and Bush is a Category Six disaster for the U.S. and the world.
He was on one of his many month-long vacas in hellhole, Texas when the perfectly good intel came in and he ignored it. In fact, Clinton told him the number one priority was terrorism on US soil….and one of the first things Bush ignored coming ILLEGITIMATELY into office was the BIPARTISAN Hart-Rudman bill worked on by Clinton and Gore to PROTECT AMERICANS on our own soil.
So by defending this treasonous son of another Bush you are dissing your OWN responsible members of what used to be the Republican party. And signing on as a corporate butt-boy for Cheney and Halliburton and Bush and Carlyle.
Why? What do you get out of it?
There never would’ve been a successful assault on the twin towers had Gore assumed his rightful Presidency…and even if you insist there would’ve you have to admit he would not be French-kissing Saudi princes and attacking Iraqis when it was Saudis not Iraqis on the planes.
What kind of “intel” does it take to soul-kiss terrorists and attack an innocent people?
Let’s hear again how it’s Clinton’s fault that Bush ignored bipartisan antiterrorism bills and detailed warnings abouot attacks with airplanes? And how fondling Saudi princes and attacking innocent countries was the proper response?
August 31st, 2005 at 9:44 amYou people make me sick. You don’t give a rat’s ass about this tragedy. You just see it as another opportunity to slam Bush. Bleeding heart my ass. You’re a bunch of self-righteous assholes as far as I can tell. There’s a time and a place for politicking but this is not it.
August 31st, 2005 at 9:54 amYou need to get a grip, Scott, calling everyone you disagree with assholes. Speaking of assholes, asshole, you are starting to sound like Sean Hannity.
August 31st, 2005 at 10:00 amBoy that 300 billion would come in handy now..
August 31st, 2005 at 10:04 amFunny…. I agree with Scott. What are you doing?
August 31st, 2005 at 10:08 amtoo bad that thousands of louisana and mississippi national guard are in iraq right now..
August 31st, 2005 at 10:18 am